Has porn made me gay?!!

That's painfully true, the "do whatever I don't care even if it kills you" is the new killer mindset of most people around here

 

It's like there is this new wave of users that dont seem to fully "get" how porn is a slippery slope that leads to acting out in real life. Be it acting out with gay or risky sex, seeing prostitutes, engaging in illegal acts, being a voyeur etc, all of these things are bad and should be discouraged, as well as any course of action that leads to them. Escalating through porn completely warps your sense of self and anything you do while under its influence should be seen as such, under the influence of what is essentially a hard drug.

Do I have a problem with non-straight people? No.

Do I have a problem with OP maybe being non-straight, even if I dont think he is? No.

Do I have a problem with straight men being almost encouraged to act out on things they only think they want to do because of porn's corrosive influence? Damn right I have a problem with it.

 

OP is desensitised, it's that simple. Activities that might otherwise freak him out or cause a stronger reaction are not phasing him because porn is affecting him that badly. It's a story repeating a thousand times and more on this site.

 

You’re straight.

You were born straight, it doesn’t magically change one day.

Its not a spectrum.

The porn has clouded your mind. Quit it and you’ll look back and see.

 

why worthless though?
It's like the debate about free speech.
there needs to be a discussion within a community about what's adequate and what's not, whenever someone asks a question, and you need more than one point of view, otherwise it only serves one kind of person.

You gave the example of HOCD.
So Homosexual OCD, or OCD characterized by an obsession with homosexuality or thoughts about sexual orientation.

CBT with an emphasis on psychoeducation and exposure (2nd wave behavioral therapies) is the standard approach to treat OCD, but some individuals are refractory to that kind of treatment. So you might end up trying to fix the OCD with other treatment modalities that have been proven to work with refractory cases, such as Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) or Mindfulness Based Cognitive Therapies (MBCT) (3rd wave behavioral therapies) (Reddy YC and al. 2017).

2nd wave behavioral therapies are focused on changing the content of thinking, so, you learn to modify the thoughts that you hold inside your brain and work on fixing the way you think. 3rd wave behavioral therapies focus on the relationship between you and your thoughts, so you might learn to meditate and learn to relate to your thoughts as clouds arising and then passing away, and it might alleviate distress. It's done through exercises, just like in the 2nd wave stuff.

My main point is this: Those 2 treatment are based on completely different ways of seeing the world, and even if they're radically different, a lot of people benefit from them, and it cures OCD for a lot of people honestly, as strong as medication.

So what you take as "HOCD Denialism" might just be another way to experience and relate to HOCD, and ultimately help fix it.

Janardhan Reddy, Y. C., Sundar, A. S., Narayanaswamy, J. C., & Math, S. B. (2017). Clinical practice guidelines for Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder. Indian journal of psychiatry, 59(Suppl 1), S74–S90. https://doi.org/10.4103/0019-5545.196976

 

I wouldn't recommend using a friend for sex.

 

You've answered your own question. Do a clean reboot before doing anything drastic.

 

Pmo (porn masturbation and orgasm) can fuck you up terribly. Everything about you mind, body , and spirit can be fucked up from excessive pmo. It’s a terrible thing, the worst thing for your health by far.

I’m confident in saying that any problems in life that you have, weird attractions, symptoms, feelings, anxiety, depression, lack of a backbone, etc. can and will be cured when you eliminate pmo completely. You will start to see the benefits of nofap unfold before your eyes as the time without pmo goes on and on. Stay abstinent from pmo and intentional sexual stimulation, and you will life your best life.

 

Don't listen to anyone else. Telling other than what @AtomicTango said.

They're clueless and they'll only cause distress.

 

Actually that's not great. I could list some very, very alarming statistics about how promiscious behavior is affecting men who have sex with men, but I'd probably get banned. But for short, there's a disproportionate impact in context of STIs when it comes to MSM vs heterosexual men.
You can find the facts here: https://www.aafp.org/afp/2015/0615/p844.html (American Academy of Family Physicians)
HIV/AIDS

• MSM accounted for 63% of all new diagnoses of HIV infections in the United States in 2010, in addition to 54% of persons living with HIV
• The HIV diagnosis rate among MSM is 44 times that of other men
• Most anal cancers are caused by HPV infection
• MSM are about 17 times more likely to develop anal cancer than other men
• Anal cancer is more common in men who are HIV-positive

"Reasons for Increased Sexual Risk-Taking in MSM
Risk-taking behavior outweighs concerns about consequences."

and here: https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0413-stds.html (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention)
Gay and Bisexual Men

• Make up nearly half of all 2019 primary and secondary syphilis cases.
• Gonorrhea rates were 42 times that of heterosexual men in some areas.

Young People Aged 15–24 years

• Make up 61% of chlamydia cases.
• Make up 42% of gonorrhea cases.

This is not homophobic to post. These are facts. And if I'm going to have my post deleted again just because you (the mods) think it's homophobic that I'm cautioning my brothers before they dive head-first into potentially high-risk sexual activity, then just say so. Because what I'm doing right now is more loving than singing "love is love" to tune the of unprotected locker room group sex.

I can't control people, because I can't make other people's choices for them. This is not a personal anecdote about how I feel about men who have sex with men, nor men who are gay-identified. I myself have had a homosexual encounter, and I don't think of myself as any better or worse because of it.
But what I won't do is encourage someone to walk into any habitual sexual practice without a warning from unbiased health care professionals and institutions who's JOB is to save people's lives.

Let's help each other practice healthy sexual habits. Not encouraging unhealthy ones.

 

You don't seem to understand the problem. Yes it is ok to have different points of view. But it is not ok if one side tries to villify the other and tries to push them outside of discourse. You are new so you might have missed this.

I was referring to people who say that it is a made up condition and are angry at people who claim to have it. But interesting post about therapy anyway.

 

Good luck with it dude. We're rooting for you.

 

I was being facetious when I said it was "great." I do not condone promiscuous behaviour between people of any gender. (and before anyone says, no I am not religious.)

What you have posted is a much more detailed version of what I was alluding to in my first post. OP might very well find it easier to do stuff with other men because other men are more straightforward and to-the-point. To stop beating around the bush, a lot of men turn into hedonists when given the opportunity to do so. A lot of men are tricked into thinking they want to have sex with men when really porn has warped their brain to the point they would stick their penis in anything if they thought it would make them feel a stronger hit.

Porn is essentially a drug. Dont make sexuality decisions under its influence.

 

No, porn cannot make you gay but it can destroy you.