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Can't be resentful forever

Discussion in 'Loneliness' started by Reborn16, Oct 23, 2021.

  1. Reborn16

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    Just like that, I realise I've gone my entire 20s without a serious relationship.

    I feel resentment, but I'm not mad. I just don't want to put this off too much longer.

    Last 5 or so years I've worked on myself. Got a degree, more in shape, a few good hobbies and friends. Still the dating life has been completely absent haha.

    Make a few connections online, in person, and random cold approaches. None went anywhere, but there was some self-sabotage which I admit to. Fear of success as well as failure...

    I guess where I'm going with this, is that even though I feel like a lonely guy now, I know that life can change a lot very quickly. Nothing is guaranteed, including the loneliness we experience today. And we have to keep looking after ourselves by taking action.

    This is just a rant... But I invite any thoughts...

    All the best!
     
  2. On a scale from 0 (total loser that beats off all day and not much else) to 10 (alpha chad swimming in options both personally and professionally) where are you?
     
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  3. Do a hard mode 90 day reboot. If you can suffer through it, there will be enormous benefits.
     
  4. Reborn16

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    In 2016 I would say level 1, PMO almost daily, could not look a person in they eye without anxiety.

    Today I feel like a 5 or 6. But if I changed just a few things it could go to a 7 or 8.

    I don't want to be an alpha chad, have had very brief times in my life with casual sex and it's just as unfulfilling as porn IMO. Just want to live my best life and share it with a girl who values me.

    Other areas of my life like career and fitness are getting better each year. Friendships are lagging behind though, I don't have close people I can just hang out with or talk through my struggles with.

    If I go out on a Friday night and see couples and groups of friends, I'm pretty much thinking "where are all the people like me, probably at home?" this leads to unhealthy thoughts.

    But yeah, have put this off so I hope to change this over the next year.
     
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  5. Reborn16

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    I've never achieved that, but I really should.

    Went over 2 months until mid Sept - then loneliness and a day out drinking followed by a night alone was the start of only going 1-2 weeks since then.

    But I'm giving it another shot. Think I'm finally ready to suffer through a reboot again..!
     
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  6. We are both stuck on the same level, so to speak.
     
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  7. One day at a time, my brother.
     
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  8. HitB

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    Self-sabotage blows. I feel like this is my life in a nutshell. Holding myself to higher standards that may have just screwed me over in the end.

    Brilliant. I like this.

    I feel this to my core. Though I'm learning to live with myself. And try to improve my life so that I can improve hers. No one wants to share in a miserable life. So the less miserable--and more enjoyable--I can make my life, the more a girl will want to share in it as well. But yes! Go out and live your best life! :)

    GET ER DONE!!! :D

    Wish you luck. If you make it, do share the things that helped.

    Meee too. *sigh* But I have goals to change it by 2025. Slow is steady, steady is fast. Or so they say.
     
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  9. Reborn16

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    Thanks for the kind words!

    It's been a journey so far, good improvements but still want to live porn-free and hit a few more goals, then will be happy to share any insights!

    Did you make a 5 year plan? That's what got me to where I am now, just made another plan earlier this year because I knew some changes would be coming up. I think it's a great way to go, 5 years goes by, and if you break the goals down you can really change a lot.

    Sounds like a few of us are stuck of the same level socially or otherwise?

    How do we plan to improve that?

    I used to take dance lessons, definitely will get back into that. Cold approaching too once my mojo comes back. And probably some group sport thing like tennis or cycling...
     
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  10. I did social sports last spring and summer, both soccer and volleyball. Hated soccer because everyone took it too serious. Loved volleyball so I plan on doing that again. I started going to twelve step meetings again but I have a history that makes that appropriate. Exercise classes, yoga classes, time at the gym, time spent playing guitar, and a metal working class. I even managed to change jobs and put myself on the path to six figures. I got a new apartment and a new jeep. I am coming up on six months without porn. These are all good things but I still feel like I am missing something rather large. I don't see any good reason why I am single and alone all of the time. I am not only single I am not dating or meeting new people. It isn't that I am lonely and need some other person to fill the void because I know that doesn't work. Its more like there is a whole sweet or relationship skills that I am failing to use or missing completely. Engaging with women is fun. Getting to know other people and letting them get to know me is satisfying. I have a couple of friends but we don't ever go out and do things together. I have spent almost every weekend this year alone for reasons I don't understand and I am sick of it.
     
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    Commit yourself to trying new things. This can be through meetups or other sites.
    Myself I have started salsa dancing during the reboot and meet alot of new people. Loneliness is painful and I think most of us are using porn as a escape from feeling it.
     
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    Uh. Well. Find a job that I can do without further injuring myself by year's end. Do social clubs and online dating within next couple years if it hasn't happened organically by then. If things haven't improved by then, Ibogaine or geographical arbitrage. And after that, if things haven't improved...well...suicide, I suppose. With any luck, I'll be dead by 40. Cuz fuck this shit. I'll have done everything I know how. I've done SSRIs. I feel like a zombie and rather feel something instead of nothing. And I've tried therapists. I don't need fake friends. And in the end, I'd rather stand on my own two feet or fall on my sword. Rather die on my feet than live on my knees (in regard to fear). But I struggle with mental health. So don't follow my path.

    If you do decide to do dancing (if you've never done it before), I'd recommend learning the waltz or something. I never went to prom or any high school dances. Then did a dancing class in college thinking I'd learn how and get better. The Latin dances suck because they require a lot of...er...confidence, I suppose. Or, idk. The waltz just fit my personality better (it's slower and more deliberate, I feel). Got called out by the teacher in front of everyone for being timid and not "showcasing" my gal. That didn't help the social anxiety at all. So find a dance that fits your style.
     
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  13. HitB

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    Listen to this man. He's got his shit together and knows what he's doing.
     
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  14. Reborn16

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    Sounds like you've made a lot of things happen, and just need to be a bit more proactive on the relationships front?

    I get it. There's a phenomena when guys can be tall, have a good job, it's all going well, yet women don't see them, or so it seems.

    Do you pursue the wrong kinds of women? If you're looking after your goals but are attracted to the instagram girl or club girl or similar, only interested in partying and chads, then the demographics don't match well.

    Have you read models by mark manson? If not that could help!
     
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    I don't know your struggles man, but I definitely remember feeling like a zombie not that long ago...

    Having small pieces of your life you can control helps. I've heard it's when we think our actions are futile that we really get stuck. A few areas of life where you make a change, and acknowledge that you did that thing, could do wonders.

    Like you said, take it one stage at a time, it's a rollercoaster and not always going down!

    Waltz hey? I might have to give that a try too! I started on the Latin dancing and after a year realised I wasn't going to progress much further lol... The amount of times I would mess up a routine... And my 'body roll' probably looked about as sensual as a crackhead doing the limbo!

    But I will go back and give it another shot - truth be told a lot of the girls there aren't great either, and always say they just want to go for fun and don't care about getting it perfect.
     
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    Salsa is great, when I started it I pushed away potential connections as I wasn't ready, great way to meet people that I now appreciate though!

    The loneliness epidemic is real. For us it may be porn, for others it could easily be Netflix or Youtube or their damn phone. Still, if so many experience it, there should be more conversation and change around it one would hope.
     
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  17. Bro I'm saying! I'll look up the book on amazon.
     
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  18. This
     
  19. This year I’ve read “No More Mr Nice Guy”, “3% Man”, “The Rational Male”, and “Unplugged Alpha”. The Rational Male was most helpful though I did pick up some useful nuggets from the 3% and Unplugged. Broadly speaking, another “how to get women” book isn’t what I need as I find this genre of book highly exploitative. There is also a gigantic income divide between me and the guys writing these books that goes largely ignored, is downplayed, or otherwise compensated for by shaming those of us not working hard enough or smart enough to become as rich as they are. I level the same criticism at the fresh and fit guys. I am sure they’d call me a loser for pointing this out which says a lot to me about their respective characters as well as something to all of you about my own. Wealth matters, but character and personality matters more and those aren’t developed by reading rehashes of the same “be a better man” theme. Rollo is most sympathetic to this reality.

    All of that said, there is clearly a distinction between the behaviors that attract women and those that drive them away. Actualizing that distinction in my life is imperative because if I don’t I will surely die alone without having had any children. If I get more literature on this subject I will be going straight to the heart of the matter and reading books by Robert Greene.

    Otherwise I am going to continue refining what I am doing. Hone and focus what is working while abandoning what isn’t. If that means I spend my weekends at the gym, playing the guitar, and otherwise by myself until I start meeting people I want to be alone with then that’s what it means.

    Not writing any of this to get at you. It’s a slow day at work. I am writing this out for my own benefit.

    Porn is for chumps. Fuck the woke. Maximize your potential. Crown yourself King of your Kingdom and banish those who hold you back.

    ~Fin
     
  20. Reborn16

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    @Buddhism Is True

    That's all good man, I'm glad you're making your own path and not believing everything out there (there's certainly a lot of misleading information with dating advice especially these days..)

    I'm reading No More Mr Nice Guy now, interesting stuff but getting through slowly because of the action steps required.

    Sometimes spending social time with the wrong people, dating the wrong girls, we're just better working on ourselves for a while instead. It's a time of growth if nothing else!
     
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