Why does masturbation negatively affect the body but sex does not?

I don't know if masturbation is evil or not because I don't have medical education. There are many doctors that will tell you that masturbation is good.
Rarely would you see a doctor to tell you that you should abstain if ever.
I don't count YouTube videos that have a doctor telling you this, I count real doctor appointments.
The reason behind this is that nobody did an extensive research on the benefits of NoFap.

They will tell you that masturbation also have benefits and if you look it up it does.
What I think they fail to mention is that unhealthy amount of masturbation is bad for you.
When you have sex your mind tells you you are doing the real deal! That's why it's ok.
But when you masturbate your mind is telling you you are doing something surreal and imaginary. Therefore it is bad.

In truth ANYTHING in excess is bad. Eat a whole jar of honey it is bad.
Overdose with honey and you will die. So...

 

im not a doctor but what I believe is that masturbation leaves you empty in terms of energy while in sex we get something from the opposite sex because the fluids get exchanged (because even STDs get exchanged through sex) so God has made our bodies in a way that when we have natural sex and not with condom , without condom , 100 percent natural , not anal , no nothing , so during sex , men get certain chemical compounds from the female body through urethra that it strengthens the male body and signals the brain that okey,,, you just had sex, but let me make you more strong because you got a baby on the way , and you have to protect it and the mother . nature didnt fuck up

 

I don't think masturbation or sex directly contribute to health. It's more likely that activities and lifestyle choices associated with increasing masturbation or sex contribute to overall health and wellbeing.

People that masturbate more, especially compulsively, often experience loneliness/isolation, little pleasure in day to day tasks, have trouble with high paying jobs, and engage in activities that prioritize short-term enjoyment over long term gain.

People that are married and have sex frequently are usually more financially stable, practice their communication skills frequently, and make sacrifices everyday in order to sustain their lifestyles for long periods of time. Masturbation and sex are not the causes of health, they are the results of lifestyle choices and economic circumstances.

Of course, if you are compulsively masturbating or having sex, your overall health and lifestyle is not going to be great. We all know the cofactors of excessive masturbation, but sex has them too. People who have sex frequently with many different partners may look in shape, but they often suffer from poor relationship satisfaction, low self esteem, and loneliness (just like porn abusers).

Overall, I think that sexual and masturbation habits are more often the result of life circumstances and lifestyle choices, rather than the causes. Of course excessive masturbation can lead to loneliness, loss of income, and low executive function, but stopping masturbation and improving your lifestyle at the same time will often yield much better results than just one at a time.

 

I learned that it is because there is a huge difference and neurochemical response in the brain because masturbation is about coping and sex is about connection. The biggest difference? Cortisol. People don't masturbate because sex isn't available. They even masturbate when it is available. So it has nothing to do with availability of a sex partner. Don't believe it? Ask anyone of us. It is because you are servicing a dopamine addiction just as you would a cocaine addiction. You're generating demands for a fight or flight response where none is warranted and doing it more often and more intense than our brains were ever meant to handle.

 

Psychologically - It's because sex is considered an impressive act while masturbating to porn isn't. Biologically - There's (typically) only one lady during real sex and you're not getting tons of perfect angles and views. When most people watch porn and masturbate, they view up to hundreds of different naked ladies in a single session with all the different angles and views they so please - this obviously overloads the brain with so much unnatural pleasure which is comparable to shit like cocaine.

 

Hi, yes my doctor told me the same thing every time I do it I get a quilt feeling. So masturbation must not be good if it effects your emotions

 

Masturbation can lead to erectile dysfunction, because your brain gets used to and prefers the hand-grip sensation rather than regular sex sensation.
Masturbation also can make one very narcissistic and replace relationships, even while in one.
Masturbation is often used in obsessive, addictive manner to self medicate past wounds, or present anxieties, which never proves to be a valid cure, rather than face one's issues directly and find constructive means of inner healing or coping.
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Nobody knows for certain.
I agree with the statement that "nature didn't f up" and naturally everything is fine.
Superficial masturbation is not the way to go but there are proven benefits of masturbation as well.
That's why I was also confused on NoFap at first because doctors say that in fact it's unhealthy not to empty the sack from time to time.
Yet there are benefits on the other side as well... who knows really. You just have to make a conscious choice for yourself.

I had that feeling! There were times that I had experienced more stimulation through hand instead of the actual thing.
Never gone that far to think that masturbation can replace relationships though. Everything is better with a partner at your side.
So far ED was never an issue (thankfully) but I had friends that complaint they couldn't manage with girls at times.

 

What truth? What reason for what exactly?
Things you describing are very subjective, saying the people you know who don't masturbate seem healthier and more energetic than you. Whats their genes, their diet, their day to day life like compared to yours? How much of that is just your impression, as you'll never know how something really feels for another person. When you say they all look better than you, its probably your self-worth talking which in the end may lead you to revert to masturbation, which doesn't make you feel good about yourself and the cycle continues.

There is no reference point to make a study out of that would have any scientific validity.
The only reasonable thing to look at imho, is that if you're talking about being alone and escaping that feeling via frequent masturbation, that will of course feel very different to being happy in a healthy relationsship.
Jacking off and then realizing that the people on the screen won't make you a sandwich bc they don't even know you is a whole different story than making love and therefor bonding with another human being.

The thing worth looking at for you would be your life in genereal, how happy you are with things, what fulfills you, what can you do more of that would make things better for you. Not verifying that masturbation is "evil", that will get you as far as these warnings on cigarette packs do for a heavy smoker.

Much love, all the power to you my friend!

 

And not only replace relationships in a primary sense, but it injures relationships that exist. Check out the many married logs where MO has become a substitute for sex, most often because PMO or MO had first interfered with married life, greatly hurting and insulting one's wife, and the relationship pretty much goes down the toilet from there - attempts to wipe away the shit and then Flush! Whether married or not, even, MO is not something you want to carry into a relationship, and it's not something you're going to easily stop if you just continue until a relationship eventually comes along. Just consider any relationship dead before it begins, then. Better to just be the best man you can be now, which eventually may attract and sustain the desired partner because of it. Or, still, you'll even be much happier without the shithole, stone-hearted feelings of MO even when you're alone. Recall that, too! If MO is supposedly not so bad, as the addict self and even quack professionals might have us think, why do most men always feel like shit afterward, even when they don't believe in God or have any reason to be shamed about transgressing objective morality. Another reason, too, if one does believe in God and an objective moral reality, then one's whole spirit or soul rots in the narcissistic meaningless vice of MO as well. It's quite ironic that religion has been warning men against MO for centuries, and now post-modern man is finding this out quite on his own, apart from religion even, that MO is quite devastating and destructive all around - especially when his almighty dick is now on the line - like with erectile dysfunction in one's 20s. Past decades have never seen this. The combo of MO with today's rampant and easily accessible P has killed men, and it's also killing masculinity (HCOD, femdom, trans attraction, sudden and sometimes permanent twisted gay feelings in str8 men). Ironic is the narcissism where man's god is now his own dick - true for many men today. And, your question was, Why shouldn't MO just be considered an innocent, casual thing? Good luck with that!
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I also consider the fact that during these times we live in desperation, plays a huge role in PMO. Most people live very unhappy lives! Incomplete! Fragile!
They consider PMO to be their reward at the end of an exhaustive and sad day. Almost as if you are taking away a candy from a baby.
Or a drug from the abuser. As sad as that statement is it doesn't make it untrue! While PMO or MO are naturally destructive that's the way some people cope.
Not all lives if any are the same. Some don't have the necessary environment or opportunities to change for the better.
Nobody knows with how much shit they are also dealing with. Let alone some difficult situations with health, loved ones and the like.

Sometimes it is so hard that people just give in. There wouldn't be this place unless it wasn't a huge problem.
Only people who experience intense and overpowering issues with themselves are here. You won't find anyone healthy and happy sitting here listening to the keyboard strokes.
As a community it's wholesome, as an underlying issue that needs fixing... it's terrible...

 

Yes, and somewhat needless to say - there's been desperation throughout the ages. Try living through barbarian conquest times, Black plague, slavery, homeland war, great depression, primitive medicine, whatever. We actually have it quite soft. In any age, men have to stand up and start acting like men, with character and all, putting away their infantile masturbatory behaviors and overgrown teenager porn-peeking shit! This place probably largely exists because it is now greatly affecting penis functioning of men - that's always the greatest alarm. Also, technology now allows for internet web site forums.
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Proven benefits? You mean the ones constantly recycled on the internet? Such bullshit. It completely ignores the brain damage that occurs in the process not to mention it ignores other factors too. It’s a ridiculous hypothesis. I learned that from a great pioneer in the field of sex addiction.

And wow Joe. What a great perspective! Very nicely said.

Improver...to say that some people don’t have the necessary environment or opportunity to change I think is a chicken shit excuse for anyone who views it that way. All of you have the opportunity to change. All of you can seek an environment to change. They’re out there. All of you have to want it to change. That’s nothing more than an excuse.

The choice to be happy is our choice. We can choose to find happiness in any given situation. It’s a matter of viewing life as the glass is half full versus the glass is half empty. Yes it is a coping mechanism and a very dysfunctional one at that. All of that resides within you to change if you want to change. Some of you take much more motivation than others like separation divorce and the like. Sometimes all it takes is kicking you out to get that wake up call.

One last thing and I’ll get off my soapbox. This idea that doctors are the de facto experts on all things human is also bullshit. Working in surgery, there are a half dozen doctors that I trust and would send my kids to. The rest of them I wouldn’t give any consideration to. All of these so-called experts that all of you get this ridiculous advice from...how many of them actually know a damned thing about neurology? How about psychiatry? Contrary to popular opinion doctors don’t know everything. Contrary to the hypocritical oath...how many of them do you think actually deliberately run their operation in the interest of revenue and repeat business as opposed to optimum patient care? If they cure you you don’t bring in revenue anymore. Not all of them but I’ve been around enough of them to know that’s how a lot of them operate.

 

I mean its obvious , the whole animal kingdom exists just because of sex , if it was not healthy , it wouldnt have meant to be ,
fapping on the other hand ? I have never heard of any other specie besides homo sapiens doing it , and in humans too I know some clean people who have not done it life (clean because they dont do "badnazri" if you know what I mean I believe you are a muslim)
and we do exchange fluids thats for sure I know

 

On point! Very nicely said!

While the points that you make are true it is only to some extent. You don't know what type of lives some people live.
Taking care of their children that may be sick, loved ones, terrible diseases, inability to function properly and who knows what else.
They can't just throw all that away and say hey you know what I will start fixing up my life.
I wasn't talking about me or anybody in the forums but in general. That's why I said some view it as a coping mechanism due to their stressful lives.

Furthermore nobody promised us shit to be happy! Who said anything about life being all about happiness? Nobody! We just made that notion that this is the ultimate goal.
Videos and public speakers telling me how I ought to smile more and be happy exist left and right.
While there are other reasons why they are doing it (which I don't wish to get into details and get deep into a matter not relevant to the current subject) still it's not a promise.
God or any divine entity, nobody said that you WILL or SHOULD be happy. The notion of happiness is something we invented.
Plus some people don't even need the motivation. That's why I am getting back to what I said that it is a coping mechanism for some.
There are people so effed up that they neither want motivation nor need it. They just want out of the darkness they are in.
Hence... instant gratification.

Well if we also take into account what Joe said then yes we are having it easy nowadays. Overall that's what I was getting at but I see your point!

 

We will have to agree to disagree. All of us must take care of ourselves first. How can you expect to take care of anyone else when you can’t even take care of yourself? It’s why hurt people hurt people. Nobody is saying throw all that away. We’re saying you must take care of you first. Don’t believe it? Ask anyone who has ever gone through recovery from beginning to end and they will tell you that it is an absolute necessity. It doesn’t make any difference what is going on in our lives. We must take care of ourselves so that we have the ability to function properly to take care of others. If you don’t, you’ll not only destroy your own life but theirs as well.

I think it is probably safe to say that almost all without question is a coping mechanism. Very rarely does anyone PMO for any other reason. Unless you are doing it with your SO, it’s unquestionably a coping mechanism.

You contradict yourself when you say “nobody said anything about life being all about happiness” and in the very next sentence said that “there are videos and public speakers telling me how I ought to smile more and be happy exist left and right”. So which is it?

Look let’s not get all caught up into what we should or shouldn’t do. That’s not even the point. The point is that we make a choice...a conscious choice whether to be happy or not regardless of what anyone says. I’m not telling you that you should be happy. I’m telling you that it is a choice and the choice is yours. You can choose to live a life of joy or you can choose to live a life of misery. Your choice.

 

Sex and masturbation messes your brain.

 

Sex affects your body just the same, that is why elite fighters abstain from sex and m'ing a while before the fight.

The difference is the extreme brain changes you likely go through, watching P, and the shame or guilt some people feel, which messes with self esteem.

I personally believe that is that biggest difference. Sex will leave you drained too.