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THE LIST OF GREATS.

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Deleted Account, Nov 8, 2018.

  1. Here is the list of NoFap legends (Great men that benefited from seminal conservation). All on the list fall into one of the three categories:
    Refrained from all sexual release (masturbation and sex) believing it provided mental/physical benefits
    Refrained from masturbation believing it provided mental/physical benefits
    Refrained from sex believing it provided mental/physical benefits
    Whether one refrained from sex or masturbation (for life or for a short period of time, as in the case of athletes) they must have done so due to their awareness of its benefits.



    (Note: Some of these men refrained from masturbating, some men had children, and some of these men were completely celibate or became celibate at some point in their lives. I DO NOT endorse celibacy and this is not a pro-celibacy forum but rather an anti-PMO site. Nonetheless, for our benefit, I make the logical assumption that if they were celibate, they probably did not masturbate to pornography on the internet.)

    Sigmund Freud Psychologist and Founder of Psychoanalysis

    “Freud held the opinion (based on personal experience and observation) that sexual activity was incompatible with the accomplishing of any great work. Since he felt that the great work of creating and establishing psychotherapy was his destiny, he told his wife that they could no longer engage in sexual relations. Indeed from about the age of forty until his death Freud was absolutely celibate "in order to sublimate the libido for creative purposes," according to his biographer Ernest Jones.”
    (Source:Sigmund Freud - Psychoanalysis - Psychotherapy )


    Mike Tyson Boxing Legend

    “I never knew that conquering so many women takes so much from you more than adds so much to you. I always read that the great fighters never had sex before fights and I was a young kid and I wanted to be the youngest heavyweight champion in the world, so I restrained myself from sex for around five years.”
    ( Source: Mike Tyson in ‘Tyson’ and Athletes on Abstinence )




    Muhammad Ali Boxing Legend

    “There’s a kid just come down here named Cassius Clay. If you bet on him every time he fights, you’ll be a rich man, ‘cause he won’t lose a single fight. I believe his thing is sexual control. And he’s got it. Any kid who can control his sex can with the title. I believe it.” (Olympic Boxing Coach, Harry Wiley, quote from book ‘Muhammad Ali, The Greatest.’ Further source:The New Science of Seminal Conservation )



    Sir Issac Newton Scientist & Mathematician

    Life long celibate. Believed to have died a virgin.

    “The way to chastity is not to struggle with incontinent thoughts but to avert the thoughts by some employment, or by reading, or by meditating on other things,”

    (Source: Letter to philosopher John Locke )




    Nikola Tesla Legendary Scientist and Inventor

    “He believed that celibacy spurred on the brain…”

    One of Tesla’s other biographers, Kenneth Swezey, a journalist who remained close to Tesla in his declining years, called Tesla “an absolute celibate,” and confirmed that
    he rarely slept.
    (Source: BBC Article and TeslaUniverse Article )


    Steve Jobs Founder of Apple

    “Our birth control method up to that point was Steve’s coitus interruptus, also called the pull-out method, which for him was about his conserving his energy for work,' she wrote. He explained that he didn't want to climax so he could build 'power and wealth by conserving one’s vital energies.” (Former girlfriend Chrisann Brennan’s book quoted in UK Daily Mail Newspaper )



    Saigo Takamori
    One of the most influential Samurai in Japanese history, known as “The Last True Samurai”

    “Although Saigo would remarry twice, father five children, and keep a company of Kyoto geisha, in 1854 he prided himself on avoiding women entirely. He saw abstinence as empowering rather than constraining…In his youth Saigo saw sex not as pleasurable dissipation or intimacy but as an impediment to happiness and loyalty.” ( From the book “The Last Samurai,” page 34.)


    Plato Greek Philosopher

    “Plato’s dialog stresses the intellect over the physical because of the risk of slavish dependent on physical desires. In this context, Plato recommends reduced erotic engagement to better exercise and control the mind. In other words, sexual activity is only detrimental only in so far as it distracts from intellectual endeavors…Plato praises this exemplary self-control, citing famous athelete, Iccus of Tarentum, who had “possessed in is soul such art and such courage mixed with moderation that he never touched a woman—or a boy for that matter—during the entire time of his training.” Plato suggests that by consciously choosing to control sexual desires, an individual liberates the mind to better study virtue.” (Source: "Male Abstinence Portrayed: A Lofty Ideal and Dangerous Extreme in Ancient Greek Sexuality")


    Leo Tolstoy Legendary Novelist

    "I had become what is called a voluptuary; and to be a voluptuary is a physical condition like the condition of a victim of the morphine habit, of a drunkard, and of a smoker."

    "These periods of irritation depended very regularly upon the periods of love. Each of the latter was followed by one of the former. A period of intense love was followed by a long period of anger; a period of mild love induced a mild irritation. We did not understand that this love and this hatred were two opposite faces of the same animal feeling." (Source: Leo Tolstoy's "The Kreutzer Sonata" )


    Dalai Lama Spiritual Leader, Tibetan leader

    "Sexual pressure, sexual desire, actually, I think is short-period satisfaction and, often, that leads to more complication."

    (Source: Sexual intercourse spells trouble, says Dalai Lama )





    Miles Davis Jazz Legend

    "Davis: You can't come [cum], then fight or play. You can't do it. When I get ready to come, I come. But I do not come and play. Interviewer: Explain that in layman's terms. Davis: Ask Muhammad Ali. If he comes, he can't fight two minutes. Shit, he couldn't even whip me. Interviewer: Would you fight Muhammad Ali under those conditions, to prove your point? Davis: You're goddam right I'd fight him. But he's got to promise to fuck first. If he ain't going to fuck, I ain't going to fight. You give up all your energy when you come. I mean, you give up all of it! So, if you're going to fuck before a gig, how are you going to give something when it's time to hit?"

    "...She took me to a sanatorium to talk with this shrink. He asked me did I ever masturbate and I told him, no. He couldn't believe that. He told me that I should do that every day instead of shooting dope. I thought that maybe he should put his own goddamn self in the nuthouse if that's all the motherfucker had to tell me. Masturbating to break a habit? Shit, I thought that motherfucker was crazy." (Quotes from 1975 Playboy interview: http://navattack.com/post/29739826886/davis-you-cant-come-then-fight-or-play-you and The Autobiography MILES DAVIS with Quincy Troupe: )

    Kanye West Rapper

    "People ask me a lot about my drive. I think it comes from, like, having a sexual addiction at a really young age," he says. "Look at the drive that people have to get sex—to dress like this and get a haircut and be in the club in the freezing cold at 3 A.M., the places they go to pick up a girl. If you can focus the energy into something valuable, put that into work ethic . . . " (Quote from: The Unraveling of Kanye West )



    50 Cent Rapper

    “Masturbation is a sin you stop right now fool!!! lol God is watching you” “Step to stop masturbating: 1. To avoid the urge to masturbate stop going to porn sites, 2. Make a conscious decision not to turn your head after people walk to you, 3. Do not go to strip clubs, 4. Do not look at lust filled magazines” (From Tweets, collected from: The 50 Cent Four-Step Stop-Masturbating Plan )



    Pythagoras Philosopher and Mathematician

    “According to Pythagorus (6th century BCE) sex should be practiced in the winter, but not the summer, but was harmful to male health in every season because the loss of semen was dangerous, hard to control and both physically and spiritually exhausting…”

    “Pythagoras himself established a small community that set a premium on study, vegetarianism, and sexual restraint or abstinence. Later philosophers believed that celibacy would be conducive to the detachment and equilibrium required by the philosopher's calling…”

    (Sources: Uta Ranke.Heinman (1988). Eunuchs for the Kingdom of Heaven - the Catholic Church and Sexuality. Penguin Books USA. Cited in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_abstinence#cite_note-Uta-3 and celibacy", The New Encyclopædia Britannica, 15th ed.,vol 3 Chicago, 2007, cited in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celibacy#cite_note-59) artin "Farmer" Burns" World Champion "catch-as-catch-can" wrestler, coach, writer and teacher
    "Do no dissipate in any form whatever. You should sleep alone, and from eight to nine hours. Get up at 5:30 and take a walk."

    ( Source: Farmer Burns, “Lessons in Wrestling and Physical Culture” and Athletes on Abstinence )



    Georg Hackenschmidt 20th century strongman, wrestler and philosopher

    "Moderation in sexual intercourse is very important. Sexual abstemiousness should be strictly observed during the early age of manhood and development. He who observes this recommendation will soon benefit by the immense prerogatives of chastity. A few years ago a colleague of mine said to me: “Nonsense, that is only human nature.” This “clever” man, however reached only a secondary position as a strong man, and now, at the age of thirty, he is actually degenerating as an athlete."

    ( Source: Georg Hackenschmidt, “The Way to Live” and Athletes on Abstinence)


    Mark Wahlberg Hollywood Actor

    "I don't get down with jerking off, dude. Look. I don't believe in everything that the church says. I try to do the right thing. I lead a clean and pure life. I'm a married guy. I have a beautiful wife. Sex is not the most important thing to me, being horny all the time, spanking the—I mean, it's not against the law. You can do whatever you want. And it's not like, 'I shouldn't do it because of my faith. I'm just not really that into it that much anyway."
    ( Interview quote: Mark Wahlberg Is Off His Rocker Again, Maybe Because He Never Masturbates )


    David Haye World Heavy Weight Boxing Champion

    "I don’t ejaculate for six weeks before the fight. No sex, no masturbation, no nothing. It releases too much tension. It releases a lot of minerals and nutrients that your body needs, and it releases them cheaply. Releasing weakens the knees and your legs. Find a lion that hasn’t had some food for a while, and you’ve got a dangerous cat. So there won't bet a drip from me. Even in my sleep -- if there are girls all over me in my dream, I say to them, "I’ve got a fight next week, I can’t do anything. I can’t do it.” That’s control. I’ve been doing that since I was fifteen and its part and parcel of my preparation now. That’s why Im am who I am today -- it's down to all those little sacrifices. Find me another boxer who makes that sacrifice, and you’ll find another champion." (Quote from: David Haye: Fight Night Preparation )


    Manny Pacquiao Boxer, Eight Division World Champion

    Believing the old adage that sex saps strength, Pacquiao follows a strict no-[wife] policy during training. “We’ve talked to doctors about it,” [trainer Freddie] Roach says. “Sex lowers your testosterone, so you’re not as mean.” Most boxers abstain for a week or more before a bout. “I ask my guys for 10 days,” Roach says. Of course Pacquiao beats the others even when it comes to abstinence. He stays chaste for 21 days before a bout, husbanding his energies for post fight festivities. ( Source: Playboy Magazine Article. Quoted in Manny Pacquiao Abstains Before Fights )



    Michelangelo Legendary Sculptor, Painter and Engineer
    Michelangelo’s contemporary Ascanio Condivi, who was also his biographer, described Michelangelo as having “monk-like chastity”

    (Source: Anthony Hughes, “Michelangelo,” page 326 (Phaidon: 1997)






    Rickson Gracie MMA and Jiu-Jitshu Legend

    "No sex. Yeah, because you know, by having sex you waste a lot of energy. I mean, the vital energy in your body goes away. I mean, it’s normal, it’s something we normally do, and it’s no problem at all, but if you want to accumulate energy, if you want to get full energy, you cannot waste...So I try to keep myself away from sex at least two weeks before the fight." Rickson Gracie in “Choke” (Source: Rickson Gracie in “Choke” and Athletes on Abstinence )



    Socrates Greek Philosopher

    “Socrates first prescribes abstinence from sexual pleasure. A conventionalized treatment of his view on sex then follows which illustrates and amplifies the earlier summary treatment of its dangers…Xenophon [one that Socrates advices] makes the wrong move and finds that though sex may be a pleasure, it makes you a slave. (Source: “The Framing of Socrates: The Literary Interpretation of Xenophon’s Memorobilia.” Page 54 )



    The Great Gama Undefeated World Champion Wrestler and Champion of World Wrestling 1910 and 1928

    A wrestler's life is strictly regimented. At 3 am he wakes, performs his ablutions and goes to the akharha. At the akharha he wrestles and exercises until about 8 am. After practice he relaxes and bathes. Once his body has cooled down he drinks a mixture of milk, ghee and almonds. Later he eats a regular meal and if his regimen is strict he will spend the better part of the day resting. In the evening he will bathe again and return to the akharda at which time he will perform various exercises to strengthen his shoulders, thighs, lower back and neck. By 8 or 9 pm he is in bed.

    In addition to the disciplinary regimen of exercise, a wrestler's life is defined by strict moral rules. Paramount is the injunction of self-control and anti-sensuality. A wrestler must be a celibate bhramacharya because semen is regarded as the primary source of strength.

    (Source: Gama The Great and Athletes on Abstinence )



    Swami Vivekananda Indian Hindu Monk and Chief disciple of the 19th-century Indian mystic Ramakrishna Paramahansa
    "You may wonder what made them do this, you may wonder if I had some strange power. Let me tell you that I did have a power and this is it — never once in my life did I allow myself to have even one sexual thought. I trained my mind, my thinking, and the powers that man usually uses along that line I put into a higher channel, and it developed a force so strong that nothing could resist it." (Source: “Complete Works Of Swami Vivekananda” and http://www.vivekananda.net )

    Note: There are many on the list that we all have a problem with in terms of their personalities or certain things they might have done. Kanye is an obnoxious personality. Tyson was convicted of rape. Issac Newton believed in witch-craft. Tesla believed in aliens, would ruin the reputation of other inventors and at one point started to get delusional. The samurai Takamori beheaded thousands of people. Nonetheless, these men all accomplished a lot in their lives. Tyson is a legendary boxer and in that endeavor maybe seminal conservation helped him? But we can all find at least one person in this list who inspires us and help to stay away from the evil of internet porn and excessive masturbation in short PMO.
     
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  2. Great post.
    Nothing like having a few heroes to inspire us. We should probably read the biographies and autobiographies of these men.
     
  3. MusicMakingMonk

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    Awesome compilation. Definitely inspiring.
    Many thanks!
     
  4. bixxlow

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    Epic post. Thank you. If you want to suceed you must clean your mind from these thoughts. I struggle with wet dreams. Anybody can help?
     
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  5. Payne Plank

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    Hands up.
    When you have many sex fantasies in the wake-up time, you may have wet dreams in the night.
    If not, you may just wait those thoughts to fade. The more nofap days, the less wet dreams.
     
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  6. bixxlow

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    okay, i hope that will happen :D
     
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  7. control your life

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  8. Protagonist

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    Thanks for the post man.
     
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  9. Fapenstein

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    I felt to keep reading more!! It was encouraging. Thank you sir. I think the powers that B put this shit out there to keep us neutered. A bunch of drained and weak men cannot rise up against anything. Crippling us by feeding carnal desires and too keep us in a daze.

    I've been basically PMO free for over a year and I do feel like a different person. I fear less, I'm socially more secure, I'm more aware and intellectual these days. People for sure find me "weird" probably because I'm a real deep thinker which is something I never was. There is certainly something to this "holding in your life force". I mean what we shoot out essentially populates the planet. Its vital serum that's for sure. Many of us have been wired since kids that we should be dumping our fluids but men from 2000yrs ago till today find is necessary and many of them are at the top of their professions.
     
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  10. SRG444

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    I never thought 50 Cent would help get me to day 17!
     
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  11. fellowBrother

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    good post, thank you sir
     
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  12. titkata92

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    А good post can be always take something for example
     
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  13. Sylveon389

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    This post is the best post I've seen in my life. I will visit this often to help me in life.
     
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  14. Sylveon389

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    I saw this post two weeks ago and I'm still on day one.
     
  15. Quezatolah

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    You forgot Miyamoto Musashi.
     
  16. Mahalac

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    Very interesting stuff.
     

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