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The truth about Porn and why you must quit forever

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Deleted Account, Dec 10, 2021.

  1. I did work in the porn industry before and I’m no longer in the industry anymore for a reason. I wasn’t an actor, I was a cinematographer/editor for a porn company.

    I want you to realize some of the dark, unglamorous, or painful truths to help motivate you in your quest to be Porn Free, so you can stop romanticizing porn forever.

    There's gonna be some uncomfortable info in here, so be warned. Reader discretion is advised.

    Just like with "'real" movies, porn does edits, extra takes, camera angles, cuts, etc. to put on a show. Just like a movie, it's all a circus act to keep you entertained. The actors are not making sweet love, nor are they passionately banging out the horniness they can't restrain. They aren't lost in the bliss. They're actors. The women fake their moans and orgasms. The men fake their excitement just as much because it turns out that having several cameramen, a director, constant starts and stops, and intense heat from the lighting doesn't put you in the mood.

    In addition, the sex isn't even real. It's not how real people have sex, it's not how women want sex and it's a lie that the men portrayed are actually doing it on their own. Remember I mentioned the constant starts and stops? Just like movies, shooting a scene can take hours. A normal 30 minute porn scene takes about four hours to shoot. Basically, people who work in porn normally work a 12 hour day. You know what doesn't want to work for hours? A man’s penis. So to keep themselves hard for the long shoots (pun unintended), many men take erection pills. In fact, some take so much of it that their body grows resistant to it. You know what you do to keep it up for hours after the erection pills stop working? You start getting injections directly into the base of the penis. Enjoy.

    Further, you know how the NoFap community/anti-porn movements is always telling you that the porn industry is so bad to the ladies? Even worse to the men. Since a lot of scenes actively minimize the presence of the male beyond his dick, men are often barely more than props. And if you get uppity, there's always a dozen more thinking about how cool it will be to get paid to have sex with girls and want in. For every Ron Jeremy, there's a dozen guys whom the industry would happily wash out. Not to mention, the average starting salary for males is $40,000 per year compared to women, it’s $100,000 per year. Even in gay porn, they aren't immune to mistreatment. Look how many actors have left mainstream porn for OnlyFans (or started supplementing it because just porn didn't pay the bills).

    Furthermore, when your job is pretend sex, the real thing can start to lose its appeal, feel just as fake, or need extremes to work for you. This one bleeds over to the viewer as well. It's well documented that chronic porn usage tends to lead to more extreme content in order to continue to get that high, just like needing a bigger hit of your favorite drug. It can also make you numb to real sex, which is talked about more elsewhere. You'll also notice that the guys are always stroking themselves to completion for that money shot. For some it's actually the only way they can actually cum. That's another one that bleeds over to chronic masturbators on PMO. A friend of mine was excited that for the first time in years he was able to cum from someone else jerking him off because he'd become so used to doing it himself that nothing else worked. Porn actors and users also find it a source of relationship troubles, from cheating, to cold hearts, to abuse, etc. Intimacy is a part of sex. Sex without intimacy trains you to deaden yourself to intimacy. You have to actively work against that.

    Long story short, porn is as real as the movies. The actors are just that. The men are taking erection pills to give you those sweet 30 minute pound sessions. Women aren't all secretly into you pulling out just to make a mess all over them. It screws up the actors and the viewers. All for an incredibly elaborate plot to convince you to keep watching, keep jerking, and keep buying enough to keep it a profitable industry for those on the top.

    Give up the porn. Don't turn back. Or you'll be trapped in a lie forever.

    EDIT1:"What about homemade/OnlyFans/this other thing?" This post isn't to say that porn is bad because look at what it does to the actors. This post is to provide extra motivation for resisting temptation because of what it does to them. If that doesn't help you, consider it this way: how healthy is a crack addiction? Even if it's a solo guy doing it all himself with no worker exploitation? Homemade porn may not have the actor problems, but looking it up is still going for your hit and still doing the same mess to your brain.

    And if you jack off without porn, then take a long look at whether masturbation is an addiction. Do a 90 day reset to ensure you're still the one in control. If you still want to masturbate in moderation after that, you're still entirely within the bounds of NoFap. It's very explicit that the main issue is porn, the second issue is addiction to masturbation. If you break those issues, you're in control of yourself and can make the decision you want rather than have it made for you.

    EDIT2: Just found this article that might help you in your porn addiction recovery:
    25 reasons by Jenna Jameson why no one should want to be a pornstar:
    https://antipornographyactivist.wor...no-one-would-ever-want-to-become-a-porn-star/
     
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  3. I have seen similar vids on youtube. Thank you for sharing and spreading your truth.
     
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  4. hollyman

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    Wow thank you i want to hear more actually abbout your experienced , its unveil the curtain of porn that seem not present
     
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  5. Thanks for the response. What would you want to know more about porn?
     
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  6. hollyman

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    Wow really? Thank you, here's my question

    1. I saw that in the porn movie nowadays is raw penetrated sex, i mean in the old days they still used protection like condoms, and in the western porn there so many scene that include DP or anal which is with raw sex included getting higher risk of std, is that true that they perform raw or just for the cum part ?

    2. U mention that male actor take some drugs in order to make the pennis work, jeez i cant immagine how hurt the ejaculate is tho,,, i hear some rummors that even the ejaculate parts is fake because male actor didnt ejaculate that many and to make the woman can accept the "cum" the indrusty used some fake cum made from banana juice, is that true?
     
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  7. 1. It’s true that they perform raw. But necessary precautions are taken to ensure that both parties don’t catch an STD. But because your still catching bodily fluids during DP or anal sex, there is still a chance that an STD could happen. There are reported cases of STDs and STIs in the porn industry. But if it’s a professional porn company, there’s a good chance that catching an STD or STI during a porn shoot are slim to none.

    2. Depends on the shoot, but yes fake cum is real. Don’t know about the banana juice part. But yes, fake cum is made for the porn shoot. But it depends on the shoot. If the guy can ejaculate a good amount for the money shot, then the fake cum isn’t necessary.
     
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  8. she-dernatinus

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    It's intentionally done to cater to the male gaze. Most mainstream P is designed with male consumers in mind, and so the camera focuses more on the woman, like an article displayed in a showcase. The female body is the 'product' the targeted heterosexual male users want to consume. Another reason not to put men on display, is to create an immersive male POV for the primary consumers to identify with. This filming strategy doesn't intend to belittle men, and doesn't denigrate them, since the cause behind its existence is appealing to male viewers.

    Just a remark...

    Also, anyone who did decent research about the P industry, would realize that the 'bliss' portrayed in videos is utterly fake. It now strikes me as heavily exaggerated, and even as ridiculous poor acting. Not to mention the ties the P industry has with human trafficking, along with real rape and abuse videos uploaded to mainstream sites.
     
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  9. she-dernatinus

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    I guess this fake cum is used more often than not. Considering the mechanisms and limitations of the human body.

    This is also true. I also imagine men wouldn't be all into women leaking intimate fluids, and period blood over them.
     
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  10. she-dernatinus

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    I can't understand how it's possible to romanticize an industry like this, spreading misogyny, pedophilia, sexual violence, zoophilia, and every sexual act perverse beyond imagination. The only reason P industry still gathers apologists is that the media are reluctant to expose it, being a very powerful multi-billion dollar industry, it absolutely has the means to buy all informative media.

    I actually saw some performers who had piercings on their intimate parts. I couldn't help but cringe at this extreme mutilation, a woman piercing her cli*ris and a man piercing the tip of his genitalia. Not only that, this behavior is portrayed as normal in my P videos.
     
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  11. True-Self

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    @UnrealTiger thank you for sharing.
    Where you ever "on location"?
    If you were on location what is the worst treatment that you witnessed a performer being subjected to?

    I've listened to some interviews with former performers and one of the disturbing things that they shared was that there is much coercion in the industry. This seems to take the form of the performer agreeing to do certain things in the scene and then when they arrive to film the director/producer person changes what is going to be filmed. When the participant does not want to do the changed scene they are told they will not be paid or their manager pressures them to do it. Did you ever see this happening? If so how common was it?

    Did you ever have to edit footage to hide the fact that the performer(s) were not enjoying themselves and/or being coerced? How common was this?

    Did working in porn hurt your future employment opportunities?

    Did working in the industry hurt your personal relationships?

    Did you witness a lot of drug/ alcohol use by performers? I have read this is often used to help get them through the scenes.

    Thank you.
     
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  12. Thanks for sharing.
    I would like to ask you some questions too, as this is an uncommon opportunity.
    Feel free to avoid the ones you consider too personal or intimate, or simply don't want to share.
    (Some of the questions may seem tendentious. It's not my intention, i just want to know specific realities of their lifes, and it's a way of channeling the answer to what im interested in knowing.)

    -How did you get into the film making process?

    -When did you left it? And why?

    -What is your current view on P and M? What did you change your mind? I assume at first you didn't consider it harmful.

    -Did your personal and sexual relationships resented because of your job? If affirmative, to what would you ascribe it to? Did your get bored of sex or got insensitized to it?

    -About the actors and actresses, could you tell us something about them? How were then when they started their "careers", after some time, when they "left" it if they did... Did you watch them get jaded of sex? Was their emotional state ok?
    Was the impact different to man and to woman?

    -During and after the shoots, how were the actor and actresses? I've heard some cry, but they are "forced" to continue. Have you ever witness something like this?

    -If you got to know some of the actors/actresses personally, they did manage to have emotionally stable lifes? Would you say they were actually happy, or just pretending to hide their pain and brokeness?

    Thank you very much.
     
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  13. @Sam-wise
    Hi.
    I just read you comment.
    Could you send me the links to the interviews you just mentioned?
    Thanks
     
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  14. -I agree that P main target are men, and as most men are heterosexual, the object of P is mostly women.
    But common P (not fetish like BDSM) isn't intended neither to belittle nor to denigrate woman. The denigration in P is the result of taking a person, and ignoring or "by-passing" their human dignity (which essentially is that every human should be treated as an end), just using them as a mean.
    Degrading men and women is not the goal, is the result of the action.
    Both men and women are denigrated in sex, as they are both used as products to consume, sexual products in this case.
    But then again, i agree that women are the most affected in this process, as they are subjects to most degradations.

    -This is just an opinion, in case you are interested in some insight.
    I don't watch superhero movies because they are real. I watch them because i like them, and the more real they seem, the better is the inmersion.
    The same goes with P.

    -The sexual revolution of the second half of the XX century made almost everything acceptable (the rest is on the way), and Marketing did the rest. Just like Hollywood stars, P actors became celebrities. When society was brainwashed into worshipping sex and "self-gratification", it became a glamorous profession, with fame, fans, industry awards, etc...
    Just like the cigarettes industries in the past, P industry has the power over the media to hide their miseries, and consumers are too comfortable with their chains to even consider the moral implications.

    In words of Morfeo, from Matrix:
    "You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it."

    Edit: grammar mistakes.
     
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    Excellent! Thank you for sharing this! And also thank you for that last edit. I'd say that no type of porn is good whether amateur or professional. At least not for me.

    I have been reflecting a lot on this and I've been thinking, why are so much of the amateur/professional porn focused on negativity? By that I mean: Negative feelings, agression, violence, pain, humiliation, extreme dominance/submission, brainwashing, and other unnatural/twisted things and such crap!? I mean, W.T.F !?

    None of it makes the world a better place. None. Only worse. It's just EVIL. Where is the compassion?, where's the empathy?, or sympathy? ..Nowhere.. And even if there's "something" it's only there for those who pays for it. In other words, it's fake. A lot of genres are there to make you feel insecure about yourself or to generate some kind of negative emotion. I am absolutely tired of that. I've watched P online many times where I actually have tried to find something more positive but there wasn't anything to find.. all of it is negative or grotesque in one way or the other. It's literally everywhere you look on those sites. It's like all of it is made to make you feel like shit in the end. And top of that, there's (simulated) incest, cheating, wierd ASMR vids, rape or some other sick genre that messes up the minds of both those who watches it, and those who participates in it. Even if you find something less extreme but relatively "normal", it's still not normal to sit down in front of a screen watching other people having sex.

    When I was a teenager I made a prediction. I said that in the future "..even ordinary girls will do porn or become prostitures.. more and more will.. they will not care about the consequences..". I basically predicted the OnlyFans phenomenon. This was like in 2003. I saw something bad coming. Since onlyfans became a reality everything else has been going down hill with the sexualisation worldwide.

    I personally can't find any good coming out of pornography. It's just Bad.. It's just Evil.

    The only righteous way is to have enough self love and enough self respect to not take part of any kind of porn.

    Also to build a genuine and healthy relationship based on true love with real intimacy.

    This forum consist of many people who gained full control over their lives.
    There's more hope and love for this world to come.

    Take Care!
     
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  16. she-dernatinus

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    I don't think it is entirely true either. The earliest P producers expressed a very intense rancune towards women and girls. The creator of Playboy magazine once said that abusing underage girls is normal and didn't feel it's immoral.

    It is more accurate to consider P a product geared mainly toward the male heterosexual population, and desensitize them to female dehumanization. While making a fortune out of it, both money and misogyny and sexual deviations, are core goals planned by the industry. These two are inseparable parts of the industry's finality.

    I agree, consumers need a harsh awakening from their delusional impressions. They also need to implicate morality more in their judgement, and be more critical when evaluating the media's attitude toward mainstream P.

    Just like the other user said : nothing good will come out of P.
     
  17. True-Self

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    I'm not sure (I've watched several interviews) but I think it was this one:
     
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    What do you mean? I don't understand this part. I searhed it up and some stuff about acid came???

    Anyone who can explain this part?
     
  19. 1. The worst treatment I saw was when a woman came on the set and was hit repeatedly. It was done in a sexual way, kinda like a slap on the ass. It was a rape fetish porn video. I worked 10+ hours on that video to make the girl looked liked she was enjoying herself with the guy. But she wasn’t, she was crying throughout the whole process. You wouldn’t know from the video because we did multiple takes that day. About 382 takes.

    2. Working in porn does hurt your employment opportunities. Many employers think that your a creepy guy. If the internet didn’t exist, I probably would be fine with leaving the porn industry. But I took my chances because I was unsatisfied with my work. I work from home now.

    3. Working in the industry does hurt your personal relationships. But only if you tell them and they look you up on the internet.

    4. Drugs run rampant in the porn industry. I don’t know one set I did where drugs weren’t involved. Many of the porn producers knew drug dealers in their area and would pay them a huge sum of cash. The performers would either get tired or be emotionally broken. So alcohol, cigarettes, weed, and other hardcore drugs helped them to cope with the pain.

    5. When you work for the porn industry, you sign a contract. The contract gives the amount of money would you make per scene and video. Being a performer means you are going to do things sexually on camera that your going to be uncomfortable with doing. But, they have been performers who have argued with their managers about this but by the time that video gets submitted to a porn website or multiple porn websites, it’s already too late. Their life is forever ruined by porn.

    6. It was very common that I had to edit footage where the performers wouldn’t enjoying themselves.
     
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  20. she-dernatinus

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    Interesting, and you still claim that the industry treats men worse. While here you gave a concrete example of erotizing rape and sexual violence on females. Not to say it wouldn't treat men badly, but the mistreatment toward women is far more common and worse. Your industry largely contributed to the rise of misogyny alongside sexual depravity among the current generation.

    The use of drugs and psychotropics is undeniably crucial for enduring this lifestyle. No one would be able to keep respecting themselves and avoid guilt when participating in extreme and degrading sexual acts every, single day.


    Aren't you regretting being involved with such a dehumanizing industry ?
     
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