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Is Masturbation without porn okay?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Krishna Das, Dec 15, 2021.

  1. Krishna Das

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    Hello Everyone!
    I am 18 right now, and have struggled with an addiction to porn and masturbation from about 3-4 years. So, Today I was having a meeting with one of my friends at PAA. And He asked me have you tried masturbating without porn?
    And that lead me to thinking.
    And the answer is never since I have Discovered Porn.
    Actually my struggle started With masturbating to Sexual YouTube videos, then to Sexual scenes in Movies and online series.
    And Then It lead to porn and last year to Adult Renpy Visual Novel games.
    So, the last time I masturbated without porn or any visual stimulus on a screen in front of me was more than 3 years back.
    So, My question to you all is:
    Is it okay to masturbate in moderation( like maybe once a week and then increase the duration gradually) without using porn in the initial phase of recovery and then to try to get rid of masturbation also ( Because, I feel it's not worth it to masturbate, it makes me feel guilty and also takes up lot of energy.)
    What are your views and experiences regarding this?
    Because I haven't tried doing it. And have been failing again and again to quit PMO altogether. So, Will it be a good strategy to get rid of Porn and regulate Masturbation without porn or any porn substitutes, including imagining porn and then to get rid of masturbation too.

    I would be really glad to hear from you.
    Because I have no idea about it.
     
  2. Jakethedog

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    okay so that's a tough question. "All things are poison, and nothing is without poison; the dosage alone makes it so a thing is not a poison". recently my friend (who works at the the zoo) showed me whole different kind of zoo, side of zoo that i have never seen. i spent all day at zoo and i was watching monkeys and their behavior, i was fascinated how many times a day they masturbate have sex and give each other heads. and then i asked my friend why is it such a popular activity among them and he explained. when animals get food, have sex, accomplish something their body releases hormone dopamine and when animals are in cages is zoo they don't have much to do they don't have to hunt or gather food they just receive it so basically that is the easiest way to get a dopamine burst. so back to the question. yes if your religion doesn't say otherwise or if it doesn't interfere with your life doing pmo once in a while (like once in a week or once in few days) is natural and normal. i personally have few concerns about porn. first of all it kills your confidence because you watch how other guys with huge penises fuck pretty girls and for some people it is confidence breaker. second of all if you watch too much porn your body requires visual stimulus to get an erection and when it comes to normal sex you'll have hard time getting hard (believe me i have experienced the same shit) so masturbation few times a week without any porn is not a problem at all but for the love of god you should avoid porn. when you will start having a regular sex life you'll find out how easy it is not to masturbate, but if you'll be addicted to porn promlem might require a bit more work. i hope i could help to answer your question.
     
  3. Krishna Das

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    Thanks for your replying Brother.
    I myself consider Porn really really harmful, I don't want visit a porn site or watch a porn video ever in my life. Because, It's so ridiculous and harmful.Porn is not only harmful to the user but also to the actors, and the whole world in general. And porn also has a direct link to Sex trafficking.
    So, my goal is to never watch porn again.
    Thanks for answering about Masturbation.
    I follow Hinduism and I believe according to my knowledge that masturbation is also immoral and is harmful for spirituality as it is a very selfish activity.
    I will try my best to be away from Porn for sure for the love of God.
    And will try to see if I could regulate and slowly reduce masturbation without any influence of porn.
    Thanks again for replying
     
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  4. Krishna Das

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    Ok, thanks for the advice friend
    Yeah it's different for everyone, everyone have different situations, diffirent levels of addiction, and an entirely different Brain (like our fingerprints our neural pathways are also unique).
    So, yeah will try to find out what works for me.
    But sometimes taking advice from people, helps us in finding out and also saves our time and energy which we may have wasted on incorrect path.
    Thanks for replying
     
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  5. Krishna Das

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    Thanks for the advice friend, that sounds completely logical to me.
    So, I am going to get rid of Porn first. I know how harmful it is. And I have experienced that guilt shame and lack of motivation and self worth which comes from it.
    Yeah you are right, I shouldn't force myself or think that, Hey I have been sober for I week and now I need masturbation. Rather, I should observe my thoughts and feelings and see if I have an urge to do it without using any form of porn.
    This was a really great point Brother, thanks for sharing this with me.
    Yeah, I totally agree to it.
    In India, there is a scripture which says that the "loss of semen is the greatest loss" as it is referred as the life force.
    Thanks for reminding it to me, We sometimes overrate Sexuality, rather than taking it as just a part of life.
     
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  6. Krishna Das

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    Yeah! You are correct, I sometimes become too harsh on myself. I will try to forgive myself and learn from my mistakes rather than blaming myself again and again.
    And Yeah, I should maintain a healthy diet and sleep too.
    Also, I haven't been exercising from some time due to laziness and I give the excuse to myself about my laziness that it's winter and very cold.
    So, will try to get out of this laziness and start to exercise and meditate.
    Thanks a lot for your reply Brother, it was really really helpful.
     
    Last edited: Dec 16, 2021
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  7. Krishna Das

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    Thanks for giving your suggestions friend.
    I will surely consider it.
     

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