Abstaining from masturbation and orgasm, but not porn

Hello,

32 year old male, new to the nofap community (just found it!) but not new to the desire of wanting to reduce masturbation (I’ve been attempting to do this myself for a while).

On January 10th 2022 I’ll have achieved 90 days without orgasming from masturbation. I’m really happy about this because I’ve been trying to do this since April 2021. I’m very confident I’ll make it.

I’ve orgasmed/ejaculated 4 times during these 90 days, because I had sex 4 times. I’ve experienced a few episodes of flatlining which are disconcerting (still reading through all the material here).

One thing I’d like to get people’s opinion on is that I still watch pornography. Which may sound weird, I sit there and watch it for a while, and then don’t masturbate, but that is what I do.

I wouldn’t describe myself as having a pornography addiction, I can go days/weeks without watching it and whether I watch it or not, it doesn’t seem to impact my mood or my ability to get on with normal life. But sometimes I just really enjoy watching it, so sometimes I do. If you think this is me rationalising away an issue, I’m be interested to hear about this.

Do people feel that masturbation and orgasm abstention, but not porn, has value?

I’m aware that it probably isn’t particularly mentally healthy to watch porn without any ‘consummation’ of the content, but interested to hear other people’s opinion on this.

Thanks a lot!

 

Thanks for your replies.

What do I get out of it? Good question, I find it hard to articulate. Some kind of sexual expression or satisfaction I suppose, even though it is without ejaculation.

Do I enjoy other aspects of life? Totally, I don't feel like I waste my time away on porn.

I've done a lot more reading since my initial post and I've decided to do a proper reboot (or attempt to, lets see how it goes) to just see what the effect is!

Thanks all for your input.

 

Hi

Thanks for your further replies everyone.

'Got My Socks On' to answer your question (because I was tracking my M free days, and still am) I went 44 days, then had sex 2 days in a row. Then a further 22 days and again, had sex 2 days in a row. Then I managed another 10 days. So, while I was M free for 80 days I was only O free for 44 days (at my longest). I'm pretty happy with this, I don't see a need to abstain from O if it is coming from real sex because... otherwise why am I am alive, why am I doing this? I am still reading around "dating during a reboot" to see how others deal with this.

Rents77 maybe I should get a diary going. Thanks for the suggestion.

Now I've decided to try a proper reboot, I've found (much like Got My Socks On said) my issue is M. Abstaining from P doesn't seem to be an issue.

Personally, M and O are basically one and the same. I've never operated in a way where these two parts are meaningfully separate. However, the PMO acronym implies that there are many people out there who are practicing M but not having this result in O (necessitating the need to define M and O as separate items) which I find interesting as a separate topic.