Can we actually recover from PIED?

Count me in. I have the same doubt. The only thing that keeps me going is. Acceptance. What's happ has happ. Jus do the work. Without expecting any result. Jus like you'd work for your dreams. And one day it might all come together and jus work or it might jus not.
Also, there are some of us like you and me. Who need a very long time I believe. Maybe 2-3 years. Who knows,maybe even more. We have been abusing it for 1-2 decades. Especially we neither started with magazines nor with high speed but somewhere in the middle. Maybe that also has a part to play. And frequency of usage.
Its the loss of libido the biggest factor in having all the sexual problems and losing the arousal template. Libido and arousa template are like softwares which are crucial. Without them, the hardware could not jus do anything.
I am really not sure when will my libido return. Its been 2.5 years away from porn and 14 months from pmo yet no sign of libido. Jus started getting some morning and Nocturnal strong erections but still i would lose it if I stand.

I guess i jus have to think like lord varys or Theon greyjoy from Game of thrones. Have a purpose other thank thinking about sex. And maybe we would end up like Tyrion or his squire Podrick!

Jus keep on trucking man.

 

Man don't let it get to your head. It would swallow you whole. Jus enjoy life. There's more to life. I know sex is biological need but since we have lost our libido. We are jus free. Jus focus on other goals. Everything will return. Have faith..human body is reselient and can adapt to any environment or situation on the long run. Same goes for human brain, neuroplasticity will heal us. Don't become paranoid. Jus talk to ppl here when u feel overhelmed. But don't keep overthinking.

 

It takes a lot of strength to accept that you are and addict. And why you have been doings this to your mind and body for this long. And even after knowing the truth if you cannot come to terms to cease the habit. Then nothing or nobody can stop or help you.
Am far from perfect but doing pmo is a big flaw with major consequences. The moment i connected the dots and realised it. I did it cold turkey. Brain tried for alternatives in the first 6 months...I became viglant and curbed that as well. And since then its been easy to not go back but I still stay vigilant.
The inner work has to be done before you could do the external work. Sit and think, how was your past and how your future should be. And based on that live your present.
Imagine, not being able to replicate your DNA which is the sole purpose of human beings. Everything else is jus a byproduct. If you can't do that, then evolution is at play by weeding out the weak genes. Do we want to be that? Hell no! So jus try to think deeper. You will overcome this. You keep getting back up everytime you fall. And finally you will overcome it.

 

I am with a single parent in 60s. And if this doesn't motivate. Looking at their faces. You are their achievement. More than anything they would take pride in you. Would you want to let them down.
Be a fucking man. Man up and crush this pmo shit. You are stronger than you think you are.
Suicide is jus a way to chicken out.
Jus think about your parents. How you'd want to make them proud even in the smallest way possible.
I'd highly advise you start listening to podcast Order of men by Ryan Michler. It would change your life.

 

Life isn't jus about sex or performing. There's more to that.

First thing you should be worried about is. Reaching a goal of 365 daysof abstinence.

Thinking about performance should only come after that.

You can't skip step 1 and worry about step 2. Doesn't work that way.
Become stoic or monk like for a year. 1 year is nothin if you see it in a broader spectrum.

Do this and come back to me and ask if you still can't perform and you aren't a man!

 

You shouldn't even be assessing this right now. If it has worked in the worst of cases. Imagine how it will work if you have abstained for 365 days or 730 days. You will become like a rabbit ready to hump any moving object.

So stop analysing. You will recover. Jus do the 365. You're only motivation should be you're parents and not letting them down.

 

hey man i see you’ve been at this for a long time and haven’t yet recovered. i’m just gonna put forward something maybe you hadn’t completely ruled out. i stumbled across a thread from a user who had been rebooting for 3 years and had seen no improvement. he stated in an early post that his doctor had taken his testosterone test and he fell in within the ‘normal range’, with a reading of 11.5 nmol/l. the range of normal testosterone (for nmol/L is 11-30) characterises ‘normal’ for guys aged between their teens and men aged 80+. this dude had the testosterone of a pensioner and was wondering why he had sexual problems for years. it is a joke that his gp didn’t clear up that this wasn’t the normal reading for his age (early 20s).i messaged him already but it’s been years since he posted so i hope he’s still alive or worked out his issue. this problem is easily amended through use of testosterone replacement therapy (TRT). the fact that this possibly lead to this guy taking his life (or at best suffering miserably for 1/3 of a decade) is sickening. there are different testosterone systems besides nmol/L but readings are easily converted on google. this is so important to be aware of. nofap and pornfree are brilliant (and should be practiced either way) however this does not mean they are the solution to your sexual problems. in many cases they will be. if you’re trying to paint the mona lisa at least make sure you’re using a paintbrush. this may not apply to you but it’s not a bad thing to consider. much love hope you achieve the life you want.

 

Thank you for your input. I really appreciate it. And i do have given a thought about it..and am well aware of The T thing discredited by GPs. So far ive done Free Ts And Ts. But I've made a list of other stuff to test in the coming months. Like shbg,lsh etc.
But again,
I have been athletic all my life.
I still lift weights 4-5 times a week. Heavy resistance strength training.
Never used SSRIs or other hair growth products nor I booze or smoke or do drugs.
So hormones don't easily get affected in yours 20s. If it happens, it usually happens way ahead in life.
Ive done a thorough digging on this. Consulted some endocrinologists as well.

My guess, i havent been in contact with girls as ive not out myself out there.
I've been getting consistent MW.
So i guess its matter of getting out there and rewiring but life circumstances are getting in the way for doing it.
But I appreciate your input and you are very articulate for your age. If i were as articulate as you in my teens.
I would've never been hooked this long not knowing porn was the culprit.

 

If you don't have any medical problems... you will recover.
I was in the pit...even on porn I couldn't get it up...even with 100mg V was still soft when I tried sex.
I recovered after about 300 days off PMO, but it this time I tried from time to time to make sex.
When I hit about 300 days I had spontaneus erection when my wife was naked so...sex comes easy...but the problem was that I get confident and I felt into the pitt of PMO again.
Now...I can make sex but is not hard solid like was when I was long time in NOFAP.
I try to put me again on the track.

I am sure you will recover too...but you have to forget about PMO and you have to rewire with a real person. So...you will have to try to make sex until you will succeed.

 

I think this thread can help you. Many useful links are shared in the comments. Just take a look. Recovery IS possible. You just have to be patient enough to see it happen.

 

Still have partial PIED after 5 years of being clean. I was a really bad case tho.. basically the worse. No real sex experience, only PMO since maybe 10yo and did it like that for next 25 years or so...

 

I liked all of your posts in this thread, but especially this. I like how determined and how aware you are - keep that up, it's very valuable to have people like you in NoFap.

 

Thanks for the assurance man. It means a lot. Even I was severe case as i was dead meat even looking at porn.
But I have tried pills on rare instances andtheyve worked for me. In 2019, i stopped masturbating to porn but kept viewing porn. And on two occasions the very last time I had sex as my relationship came to an end that year, i had used pills and they worked great.
And also I've completely forgotten about pmoing. No desire for it. No desire to look at porn. But I always stay vigilant.
I ve even come across someone who was an addict to heroin and became clean for years and got addicted to alcohol at the age of 45.

So i observe such examples and remind myself that addiction pathways can re surface or fall for new additictions. So always stay away and stay vigilant!