Nature of Violence

Deleted Account · Apr 17, 2022

Suppose all of the school shooters out there, what was was going through their minds when they decided to kill, they realised that after they killed all of those people they were going to have to kill themselves, rather than facing the consequences of their actions. Violence is what would happen if rules didn't exist. We live in a society where everyone has to be peaceful and non violent. Wouldn't things be over so quickly if people acted purely on a violent instinct? When a serial killers kills it never really does satisfy them either, they have to keep having to do it. It's the thrill of the kill that drives a lot of serial killers. So you could say that violence is an addiction too. There has never been a war to end all wars, nations keep waging them ad infinitum. Why is violence so unfulfilling? And why does violence still perversive despite the fact that the adrenaline from violence quickly subsides and it never manages to make anyone happy except while it is occurring? A good example is an MMA match. It's all about the fight itself, seeing blood makes the crowd go wild, then afterwards people lose interest and disperse.

OrganizeInformed · Apr 17, 2022

I think it's more than a question of the basic nature of violence. It's probably safe to say these guys had some deep psychological issues. Even if you assume there's an addiction in there, as if addiction is a discrete separate thing which I don't believe it is, there's the dual diagnosis situation where someone has more than one psych issue.

Also if you look at it through a collective and long term developmental context, it probably becomes evident that it's part of our more primitive nature, and in that regard it has something in common with sex and porn addiction. It's also indirectly encouraged in subtle and not so subtle ways. Even in the absence of physical violence the psyche can get into fights based on a psychological identification, something as trivial as the perception that ones identity is threatened socially and virtually, which we don't even have any real way of knowing or measuring, and in a context online where there's just anonymity across the board anyway. So it seems people tends to switch "modes" rather than be completely in one way of thinking or another.

Also I don't know that it's best to be a totally domesticated human where you'd have to wait for the police to arrive before doing anything to defend yourself physically, it seems there are people like that where the nurture from society has really taken over like a domesticated pet living with humans. Even if there are rare instances where that's useful in the context of everyday things. That's a different danger and I'm afraid some people are more than happy to trade a part of their nature completely to eliminate the possibility of violence, even trading things that has nothing to do with eliminating violence, but that's just ultimately not realistic as we've seen time and again but that gets into a different subject.

Derb90 · Apr 17, 2022

Well because some people just wouldn't survive

It's our primitive brain

shamrock19 · Apr 17, 2022

We all have it within us . Keep observing yourself and eventually your see the seed which has the potential to blossom into pure barbarism

OhWhenThe · Apr 17, 2022

What's with all these weird threads bro? Are you planning on robbing a bank?

Deleted Account · Apr 21, 2022

Violence is a way people have to figure each other out. In developmental stages it is a game, a play, an act. Consider that kids are violent too. Violence is linked with villanism but also with heroism, depending on the situation, so it is another thing that people do to interpret their reality. So you do not only figure others out, you figure yourself. The point is that by growing up you realize and learn to control the potential for violence inherent in all of us. The violent school shooter has a twisted view of reality and of himself, he never learned what violence had a good use for, which is for stopping school shooters. I will add that he never learned to control his violence because he might be scared of it, or perhaps it is that he is not scared enough, I do not know.

BootstrapBill · Apr 21, 2022

Ego and survival

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