The End of Relapse ?

They are interpretation to see 1 same fact. I think is good because some people get very depressed or angry after a relpase and thats dont the way, even the bible isnt so rude to the one who sin compared to this guys hitting themself because they blunder. But then we would have to separate the masturbation and the relapse into 2 different concepts, like they are two different things; relapse, then, would be the feeling you get after masturbating and not the masturbation itself, because if we dont separate the 2 concepts we would be saying that masturbating is good. What do you think?

 

I will listen and report back

 

Ok,

I enjoyed the perspective on what we call relapse. Yes the big takeaway is that when we do the behavior/habit over again, it is because our brain and body are working to get what they need to have us feeling better overall, and indeed we do feel better overall.

Very good information on identifying the variables and factors that happen pre, present, and post time of the behavior. Although the behavior is the same thing, the exact preciseness of the setting and everything else in the big picture is ALWAYS different. At least something is tweaked every single time.

Overall, I see that relapse is clarity and answer providing now, because we can analyze what's going on each single time and be aware and avoid those factors that went in at the event of the behavior being done again.

Good stuff

 

Reverting to an unwanted old behavior. Changing my state of mind or consciousness to a higher state always helps but it requires daily training I find or else the beast takes hold and it only cares about one thing

Whatever terminology you want to use or believe in or disbelieve is up to you I guess.

When I relapse the devil in me takes over all of my choices and my personality changes rapidly.

I don't mean to speak religiously but take it how you want. Mr. Hyde comes out to "play" and he isn't nice at all.

Hope it ends soon. If you're as damaged as me it feels like fap equals total destruction.

I want a life this needs to stop now to have one I am building relations but still haven't got a grip something keeps me going though best wishes it's an inside job a one man effort here for me personally at least being male except I don't have the key to unlock myself I rely on others to lift me up and keep me going

 

Relapse, the concept of resorting back to the behavior exists but the word just isn't proper is what the man is preaching.

I think relapse should be called re - action, redoing the action. Because it is precisely that, but all else is different. Makes sense to me

 

Words just arent powerful enough to convey the habit being redone, so there is really no proper word label for it. We instantly know the feeling of the word, and that's what is important. So change the feeling, change the habit from happening again?

 

I think Mr. Hyde just needs love the same way you love the good part of you. You label him as evil, you give him that description. I think if he got genuine love and understanding he would behave in order and disciplined the same way we discipline and program a young child. Idk??

 

I agree. I think what Bob is trying to say is that what we call relapse shouldn't be interpreted as an cause of a problem but rather as the response to it. It's essentially an attempt to escape the current situation and experience something better for a moment, as you say. Your brain is basically telling you that something is wrong a need to be changed, it's like a feedback. Understanding this and looking for the cause of relapse instead of getting depressed by it can actually be very helpful in my opinion.