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Men: Are you an M addict or an O addict?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by There'sForumsForEverything, Apr 28, 2022.

Circumcised? M or O addict?

  1. Circumcised O addict

    7 vote(s)
    25.9%
  2. Uncircumcised O addict

    5 vote(s)
    18.5%
  3. Circumcised M addict

    7 vote(s)
    25.9%
  4. Uncircumcised M addict

    8 vote(s)
    29.6%
  1. Edit: This theory seems to be fairly accurate, but I'm having trouble coming up with terms that actually describe what I'm trying to talk about. I'll continue to use "M addict" and "O addict" until I come up with more precise terms.

    In my research, I've come across two types of male MO addicts: those who are addicted to the M (with the O as a bonus), and those who are just addicted to the O. (I am an O addict.) You can tell which one you are by whether or not your Kegel muscles (the muscles below the base of your penis) squeeze when you masturbate.

    You are an O addict if your Kegel muscles squeeze, intermittently or continuously, when you masturbate. This will make you orgasm very fast. (10 seconds to 3 minutes, depending on how long since you last masturbated.)

    You are an M addict if your Kegel muscles do not squeeze when you masturbate. This gives you control over when you orgasm, and you can last minutes to hours.

    O Addicts:

    O addicts are addicted to orgasming. When we masturbate, our Kegel muscles squeeze really hard, because our brains have learned that it makes it feel a little bit better if we do. The problem is, this squeezing makes us orgasm very fast. As the feeling gets better and better until we orgasm, we end up getting addicted to the orgasm. O addicts cannot stop masturbating once they start. An O addict relapse looks like this:

    Takes the first stroke
    Hunches over. Kegel muscles squeeze.
    Furiously strokes until about to orgasm
    Perhaps, by a heroic effort, manages to stop.
    Thinks "what harm can one more stroke do"
    Repeat from step one until orgasm

    Theory: O addicts are more likely to be circumcised, because due to the circumcision they can't feel as much, so they squeeze their Kegel muscles to make up for it.

    IMPORTANT:
    O addiction has a cure: learning to stop squeezing. This immediately cured my MO addiction. O addiction has the same cause as premature ejaculation (which most O addicts have), and thus is cured in the same way: practice. I edge (masturbate without orgasming) for 10-20 minutes a day, focusing all my attention on not squeezing. When I am successful in this, I feel no need to orgasm. (Use lots of lubricant when you do this.)

    M addicts:

    M addicts are addicted to the feeling of stroking it. Their orgasm control lets them masturbate for very long times when they feel like it. I've heard of sessions that last hours.

    <If an M addict could describe what their relapses are like, it would be much appreciated.>

    Theory: M addicts are more likely to be uncircumcised, because masturbating feels better for those with intact dicks than for those with damaged ones.

    M addiction must be cured in traditional ways.
     
    Last edited: Apr 28, 2022
  2. IR254

    IR254 Fapstronaut

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    Assuming your categorization is valid, I would be an M addict by your definition.

    However, I'm not convinced such a distinction is valid. I can certainly do both. When I masturbate, I can last for many hours if I want to but I still squeze the muscle intermittently. It's not like squeezing your muscles is exclusive to one or the other, at least in my experience. Also, I don't think I would agree, that masturbation itself feels "better" than orgasms, it's just different.
     
  3. Perhaps a better distinction would be "You're an O addict if you squeeze so much that you can't control your orgasms".

    Yeah I don't mean that "M addicts" prefer M to O. I just mean that you guys actually enjoy masturbating, whereas "O addicts" like me don't feel anything unless we're squeezing or about to orgasm. I'll try to think of a better way to describe it than "M vs O addiction".
     
    Last edited: Apr 28, 2022
  4. Giuseppe

    Giuseppe Fapstronaut

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  5. It matters if you are an O addict, because if so there is an easy cure for your addiction. As soon as I realized I was squeezing and started to try and not squeeze, masturbation was no longer compulsive for me.

    For M addicts it probably doesn't matter.
     
  6. Daniel Plainview

    Daniel Plainview Fapstronaut

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    There's a third option here. People who are addicted to porn and the dopamine rush it provides. I fit into that category. If I masturbate without porn, it's pleasurable, but I feel no need to binge, or hell, even do it more than once. But I struggle with separating normal sexual impulses (which ultimately are natural and healthy) from the desire to watch porn.
     
  7. The seeker

    The seeker Fapstronaut

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    Can you not be addicted to both? You enjoy the sensation of masturbating but you need a closing point so to speak?
     
  8. Yeah I'm trying to find better terminology. Basically, the two categories are 1) Men with premature ejaculation who are addicted to orgasming because of it and 2) "Normal" men who are just addicted to MO.

    I use "O addicts" and "M addicts" just to illustrate just how much power the orgasm has over some of us.
     
  9. The seeker

    The seeker Fapstronaut

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    So if you are addicted to O what is the solution to quit?
     
  10. If you squeeze when you masturbate, learning to not squeeze will most likely cure you.
     
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  11. Interesting thread. I'm circumsized and I'd say I'm an M addict.
     
  12. Ok what if we just used "squeezer" and "non squeezer"? "O addict" and "M addict" sort of works, but it's talking about the symptoms, not the problem.
     
  13. Bumping this one more time.

    I'd like to get more votes in the poll before I write up the final version of this theory.

    What forum should I post it in? It doesn't seem to really fit in any of them.
     
    Last edited: May 2, 2022
  14. Overforme

    Overforme Fapstronaut

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    I fall into P M O - porn is what would provide the dopamine to spike higher with the excitement of masturbation and then the grand finale of the O to trick the brain into thinking it just scored with a bunch of chicks, but in reality your only score was your hand and now you are ever so slightly more brain damaged do to it. Little chips at a time at the brain.
     
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  15. OhWhenThe

    OhWhenThe Fapstronaut

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    Uncircumcised ... M feels unreal but that's the problem, it led to becoming a chronic edger rather than just getting it over with(which can easily be achieved in a matter of seconds).
     
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  16. Wugazi32

    Wugazi32 Fapstronaut

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    Uncircumcised orgasm addict would probably describe me!
     
  17. Cool. When you masturbate without squeezing, does it still feel good?
     
  18. I'm jealous but also not jealous. Good luck.
     

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