Trying to cure PIED. OK to masturbate without porn?

This would be something that you don't want to hear, but I would suggest quitting masturbation completely. Masturbation (and porn) is highly addictive, and it is almost impossible to do it in moderation. I know the urges will be quite overwhelming sometimes, but please don't entertain any of them, you definitely have the choice to do so.

 

How about seeing a sexy girl on an Ads accidentally? is it count as relapse? will it also slow down the healing process?

Thx

 

It is not a relapse, and it won't slow down the healing process, unless you intentionally indulge in them and edge / fap. The most ideal way to deal with this situation is to look away decisively.

 

I agree with the other posters: try to abstain from PMO for a while... Your libido will not be harmed in any way. And you mention you want to keep your sanity? The best way to get sane is to quit the addictive behaviour! I think the best way to quit the addiction is to quit all triggering behavior. At first you start masturbating without porn, only 'innocent' fantasies, but then you're on a slipperly slope and before you know it you're in some addictive fantasy-loop and back to square one.

 

The masturbation topic is obviously a big one on this forum.
Everybody knows what causes them to be unhealthy and trying to get support form other Fapstronauts to justify staying on the edge, flirting with disaster, playing with fire, whatever you want to call it, is also a common thing here.
Deep down, you know exactly what you are doing...you want to change, but you don't want to go all the way, because it's scary as fuck, I get it. But again, only you know where to draw the line in the sand for your own recovery. Follow your gut instinct and then share the solution with the rest of us, but none of us here know the exact answer for your specific situation, only you do!

 

Hard mode is the way to go meaning no PJO/FJO because they have more benefits especially being on semen retention. In fact, nofap, semen retention, and monk mode combines into one because they're kind of similar to each other.

 

I think it’s better to stay away from masturbation focus on the future you man