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How can I stop being jealous that I can't fuck a certain woman?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Deleted Account, Jun 5, 2022.

  1. I see a colleague I know and find attractive, and
    she is wearing nylon pantyhose

    I immediately get jealous that I can't fuck her, that I can't worship her nylon feet and legs

    How can I stop feeling this way?

    I keep PMOing all the time because I feel jealous of people who can experience sex with someone, or experiment and fulfill their fantasies. It's like the grass is greener on that side, and that they are doing "adult things" which i can't do right now (unless I fucking pay a prostitute or dominatrix with the paranoia of getting robbed or something).

    I'm jealous of people writing posts on reddit about their sexual experiences, like "
    I received my first footjob today and it was the best thing in my life", or asking things like which vibrator is the best for sex, or how they are planning a sex weekend trip and what toys they're gonna buy, or how some are cross dressing and just laying on their bed in ecstasy of happiness

    I'm just fucking jealous of that, and that's why I keep PMOing, as PMO is the next best thing I can do. It's like seeing people eat a hamburger all the time, while you have to be content with eating a salad

    I feel like giving up, going to a monastery and spend the rest of my life in prayer, just to show the sexual world a big fuck you because I didn't come to experience this shit in my 24 years of life.
     
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  2. Morior Invictus

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    1. Jealousy doesn't make you PMO, you choose it to avoid pain. You used to choose is unconsciously, but since you're now aware of the pattern, it has become a concious choice lest you reside yourself slipping into that state again.
    2. There is some serious meditation/ prayer/soul searching if you are driven to such intense feelings by the status or experiences of people that are living their own life. You need to find the root of this pain and shine the light of your conciousness on it, for the shadows of evil cannot persist in the light. The past and future don't exist, mostly everything is an illusion, most problems are created in your mind.
    3. I know you were probably joking but the monastery thing would probably lead to the most joy and love in your life. Plus I think it would be really based to do so and would get an immediate "mission passed, +respect" from me.
    4.Just accept your eating the salad, no amount of whining or hoping would ever change that in that moment. In fact I'd feel proud for sticking to it and eating the salad and enjoying every bite, as every moment of life is to be enjoyed.

    Cheers!

    Aut Invenium Viat Aut Facium
     
  3. Abel100%

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    Amigo solo tienes 24 años... Yo hasta los 28 fui virgen ...y hay gente por esta comunidad que no han tenido parejas y pasan de los 40 años ...
    No te desesperes ...
     
  4. I just don't feel like an adult because I haven't been doing those "adult things" yet.

    The monastery thing was a joke of course. And even if I'd like to go to a monastery, the problem is that I'd go there not because I feel called for religious life, but because I got upset that I couldn't live the "regular life".

    Really to be honest, I never saw myself living that "regular life" (sexual experiences, alcohol, cigarettes, parties, and so on) at all. I always felt that I'm not destined to do such things, but in a negative sense, like "I'm such a special nutcase that I can't do these things, I'm not expected to do them by others"

    It's just the frustration I sometimes feel, that I don't have "someone to have fun with". Because as you said I see how others are living, and it gives me the feeling that compared to them, I'm still "a child". They are doing adult things, and im not. It kind of makes you feel low self worth, and you either accept that low self worth (eating the salad) or you go to the monastery and give a big fuck you to this regular lifestyle
     
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  5. DevilMayFry

    DevilMayFry Fapstronaut

    That's very helpful. I would feel the same too, which'll only cause a downward spiral. I'd not snap out of it, which would lead me to porn. Thank you for the insight.
     
  6. Morior Invictus

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    Here im going to challenge that thought my friend! Comparison is the killer of joy. But are you really bummed out that you can't live a "regular" life? By your standards my life isn't regular at all, yet I'm the most joyful I've ever been. You're not missing out on sex (Its only worth doing with the one you love), cigarettes are just an addiction, parties are often pretty dumb as most people are drunk (I have never drank though its amusing to watch and Shepard others sometimes), and alcohol is a life draining thing (If you need substances to have a good time then something is amiss in your life or mindset.).
    If anything, not focusing on these things gives you a unique chance. A chance to become something more than someone basted in mediocrity my brother.

    I'm going to assume that you are coming of age into a man. But the socialization, the actions, the vocation, the women, nor the spirituality determine your worth as a man. What determines it is the responsibility you now inherit. Becoming a master of your inner domain and becoming unafraid to truly be yourself is the defining marker, and those who go to parties and drink alcohol in the ways more people our age do, don't meet those definitions. They're still adolescents.

    I've had your feelings before. But instead of fitting yourself into others like a mismatched puzzle piece, gain competence and confidence through truly reinforcing activities. For myself this has been bladesmithing, military service, joining a pipe band, and much more, but it is mostly what the 99% aren't doing.

    The sky is the limit, but only you can define how high the sky reaches. (P.S. yet the salad is what will make you healthier isn't it? Accepting yourself and situation for what it is, you'll be more shredded than those eating the junk food)

    Cheers!

    Aut Invenium Viat Aut Facium
     
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  7. FYI The salad originally was an analogy to PMO, and not a healthy lifestyle. What I meant was that I only can have the salad (PMO) while others can have junk food (sexual experiences with real partners)

    I understand your comment, that the grass is not greener on the other side and that I should use the chance of me being in that personal situation in which I am to tell the hedonistic world to fuck off

    But it's so hard. I just think that although an unhealthier lifestyle, it's more intense. I genuinely think that having a sex partner would help me mental wise, it could maybe open me up for more outgoing experiences of non sexual nature.

    It's just that outside of "sex, drugs and parties" i cannot see a way to find genuine happiness in life, or even better, something which would give me more happiness than the best thing I can imagine which could happen to me, namely

    worshipping an attractive female's nylon feet and legs by licking, sniffing, massaging them

    I could win a billion dollar in a lottery and would still feel less happiness than what's in "trigger". And the fact that I can't "achieve" this (at least without spending lots of money and being paranoid all the time) just sucks. And it just additionally sucks that I can't do the things adults do. I'm hindering myself from doing that. Maybe it's social anxiety or even autism, idk. But I struggle a lot with enjoying life.
     
  8. This is seriously the first wise thing I saw you write here amigo.
     
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  9. I mean, what else should I do? It's hopeless, I will never fulfill any of my fantasies, I will never be outgoing, I will never experiment.

    I just feel like taking the emergency exit door and get out of this. "I can't have what you have theoretically to offer, so fuck you world, I'm gonna isolate myself in prayer to find my inner strength"

    It may be wise but sad, because this means that I will never reach my "goal of absolute pleasure". Yes, my life is heavily pleasure oriented, in every detail.
     
  10. Well Give me the answer please on that question.

    Sounds like a good idea.
    You will be surprised to see that your prayers will be answered...

    Well maybe it's a good idea to pray for another goal in your life?
     
  11. Ubermen

    Ubermen Fapstronaut

    I’m sorry you feel this way but @Morior Invictus has already given you some great advice. You can take it, or you can go get drunk, smoke cigarettes, and throw your money away to pay for sex and feel hollow and empty after all that. And you probably should. If wisdom will not dawn in your mind then you need to go through hell to understand what it is. Stop wasting your time posting here and go get wasted! It is miserable to want to do something and not even have the balls to do it! How can anyone have respect for a human who will neither satisfy their desire, nor see wisdom? At least take one fork in the road and see where it leads. Otherwise life is not worth living. I’d have more respect for you if you actually went out and did one thing or the other.
     
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  12. 100% understand you. But maybe there's a third way? Because, see, I will always have pain when I choose to either indulge or to abstain and be a "monk" (or an actual monk!). When I'm indulging, I try to make the pain go away (indulging is the pain medication), whereas abstinence and monk life is enduring the pain (tolerating the pain by pure willpower and discipline)

    But is there a way to ELIMINATE the pain all together? So I will be happy without the constant need to ejaculate under the sweaty nylon foot soles of a gorgeous and beautiful woman?
     
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  13. dre.spla

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    It sounds like you're not living in the real world. You're imagining people experiencing sex with other people. You're reading stories from people you don't know. Remove yourself from this crap - it is very hard, and you will fail. But over time, you will get stronger. The trick is to not give up and continually improve and continually try to change.

    I life of solitude and being a monk will be a lot more difficult than you think, and it is very admirable. Tbh, a monk-like life, right now, sounds like it is what you need to rewire your mind - and NoFap is a baby step towards monk life, however, you dont want monk life, you just need to do nofap to regain your confidence and to stop comparing yourself to things that aren't even in your reality. The online world is dangerous man, that's why we're all here
     
  14. Ubermen

    Ubermen Fapstronaut

    I’m glad you get where I’m coming from.

    Yes, there is a third way but one cannot get there without pain.

    You/I don’t have to be a monk and you/I don’t have to be an addict. But we cannot get rid of the addiction without some pain. Once we heal we can live fulfilling lives filled with connection with real people doing healthy things and real intimacy with a real person can develop. That’s not living like a monk but it is not a life of sad addiction or mindless hedonism either.

    But to get there we have to abstain for some time. Think if it not as monk hood but a short term penance. An expiation for wandering into PMO.

    Living in the shadow of indecision is worse than death imo. Start to live- one way or the other. Good luck!
     
  15. Morior Invictus

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    Yes there is. Monk life isn't about enduring the pain. Monk life is about reaching enlightenment where you don't see anything as painful, which is what you're referring to as your "third" way.

    All pain in your life is mostly of your own doing. Mindset, perspective, etc.

    But there is a really simple solution to all this but you're getting in your own way.
     
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  16. The only way to not see anything as painful is for me to dedicate myself fully to a religion (in my case it's Christianity) and be that monk, just as you say. Because then, I'd be putting something truly more important first than what I use to do now. But I think I couldn't do it for a longer period than maybe some days.
     
  17. Doing healthy things and real intimacy with a person. That's why i started this thread in the first place, too. I lack the intimacy you get with a sexual partner. And if I had this, I wouldn't be PMOing. Because why? If you got a beautiful and gorgeous woman laying next to you in your bed, which let's you fulfill your fetish fantasies and is wearing certain clothes "just for you" (as I'd be willing to do or wear something for her)
     
  18. I managed to do like 30 days on NoFap. Was walking with a semi-erect penis all the time, and I really had to focus immensely to avoid boners in public. When I relapsed, I basically exploded in 5 seconds and could literally hear my own ejaculation.

    The only way I could see myself doing NoFap for more than 30 days is when I'm in a coma
     
  19. Morior Invictus

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    I mean it really isn't as big of a commitment as you think. I'm a really joyful person for darn near all of my time. Its just takes routine reading, meditation, and taking care of yourself. You can have an epiphany and enlightenment without living in a monastery. Obviously religion helps though as it has with myself.

    Cheers!

    Aut Invenium Viat Aut Facium
     
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  20. True. But I can't find a way. Pure abstinence ("traditional NoFap hard mode") hasn't worked yet, as I already wrote, I made it to 30 days and was walking semi-erect all the time avoiding boners as best as I can.

    I'm just sad that I can't have something 80% of regular guys with a girlfriend could have (living out my nylon foot fetish fantasies).

    The obvious solution would be to start dating but then again I don't want to be in a relationship with someone I see as a free prostitute.

    So I either become so frustrated that I simply give up, or I try to live it out.

    The other solution would be to just keep PMOing. But that's useless. I've been PMOing for years and I'm just sick of it, I want either the real thing or nothing. PMOing feels like forcing yourself to poo, while the real thing feels like pooing when having a bad case of diarrhea.

    I could also always just buy one of those Real Dolls (or a pair of silicone legs and feet), buy used stinky nylon socks and "create my own girlfriend". Better than PMO, but still not the real thing. There's no fun when you're alone, like i want the woman to smile at me while pressing her stinky nylon feet into my face

    Sry, I'm just a mess. But it's only because I'm a pleasure seeker by nature. I don't seek joy or fulfillment, but pleasure. But, again, I'm too paranoid, socially awkward and anxious, so the cognitive dissonance between wanting to experience as much pleasure as possible and being afraid of the risks is big

    Maybe I seek pleasure because we were kind of poor once. I only ate McDonald's maybe 2 or 3 times a year, now it's a month. I didn't have many games for the PS2 or DS, and whenever I wanted anything from the store my parents said no because we have no money.

    Honestly, I don't know. Pleasure is for me the only reason why life is worth living. So I'd rather live a short but intense life than a long and boring one. But again, I'm too paranoid to experiment in the first place.

    It's difficult to find a solution. Maybe I've been depressed for like for ever and was treating it by junk food and PMO. But again, why do I put pleasure on a pedestal in the first place?

    Pleasure makes me feel alive, makes me feel like I'm "the king of the world", makes me feel invincible.

    And being a Monk is the opposite of a life in pleasure. So I either fully indulge in pleasure or I will deny any pleasure for the sake of God. But no in between because of my cognitive dissonance.
     

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