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Can someone define psub?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Cremuel, Jun 10, 2022.

  1. Cremuel

    Cremuel Fapstronaut

    I see the term psub a lot, and I think I understand, but it’s hard to get the meaning from context alone. Porn substitute?

    Earlier today, I caught my self scrolling instagram for fleshy content. Is this an example? Or is it more like secondary addictions that replace porn like binging video games?

    Thanks,
    Cremuel
     
  2. 2080Future

    2080Future Fapstronaut

    I say Psubs are things that are not hardcore P such as videos that you find in a P site, but other types of sexual content that is still used for sexual arousal or even M. This would mean, as you say, scrolling through IG for pics of women in bikini, or maybe softcore P in art, or even rewinding a movie just to watch a sex scene.
    Even though it's not technically P, it is still used to satisfy urges and to M, so it should be put in the same bag as P and quit watching it.
     
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  3. @2080Future is right. To fully expand on what psubs are - they are any arousal inducing material that is not fully explicit pornography. They can be non nude ig pics or videos. Tiktoks youtube bikini videos women wearing somewhat revealing clothing. Feet if thats your thing.

    The list goes on and on. It is anything you are sexually aroused by that isnt defined as porn.

    Hope that sums it up for you.
     
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  4. Trickshot147

    Trickshot147 Fapstronaut

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    Yeah like arousing content on instagram, youtube, google, and much more. Anything really. If you're on sites like that searching and looking at content that arouses you, so of images, videos etc, then it's basically the same as searching images and videos on porn sites. It's the exact same behavior.
     
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  5. Cremuel

    Cremuel Fapstronaut

    Thanks for the helpful responses. It makes total sense now.
     
  6. JoeinUSA

    JoeinUSA Fapstronaut

    Remember all the things you used as a teen to MO before you had access, perhaps, to actual porn (tabloid magazines, R movies, underwear ads, novels with sex descriptions, brief nudity on cable, renaissance nude art - ha!). Those are probably psubs. It's interesting that once we try and even succeed in getting rid of actual P in our lives as addicts, we tend to regress in time to our earlier days even and pick up those former mediums that substituted for the real thing.

    Recently, I extensively defined psubs for myself with the highest bar possible, as I want to vanquish this, as these things have not been conducive to my PMO recovery.

    My personal list:

    GETTING BACK TO BASICS against pernicious Psubs,
    as I define them in the broadest perspective:

    Online:
    - No imprudent and vulgar searches (texts, pics, video clips, sound bites, vulgar comedy stand-up) simply to get aroused.
    - No pictures of nudity, bodily acts short of porn, dressed models for googling purposes, deliberately accessed to get aroused.
    - No intentional movies with nudity; unintentional okay (fast forward or look away when possible).
    - No looking at dating ads or hook-up ads (with or without pics) for mere sexual arousal.
    - No purposedly exploring Nofap posts simply and intentionally for erotic content.
    - No purposedly engaging reading material (online or print) simply and intentionally for erotic content.
    - No bantering about texts or messages with any other person just for sexual arousal.

    Streetside:
    - No breaking custody of the eyes for more than few seconds (at people or situational circumstances) simply for the purpose of getting aroused.
    - No performing behaviors or micro-gestures so as to attract a sexual object's attention to myself.
    - No intentionally frequenting places (like potential cruising spots, indoors or outdoors) that are internally triggersome to me, even if nothing ever happens there.

    Allowable/guiltfree/healthy:
    - Wet/dry erotic/sexual dreams (spontaneous/unplanned/unprovoked)
    - Morning wood
    - Inadvertent arousals

    .
     
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