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Escorts...Dutch and Other Open Minded People Please Respond

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by BlindSisyphus, Jun 20, 2022.

  1. BlindSisyphus

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    I'm seriously considering finding myself an escort. This isn't some sort of fetish thing for me, I don't feel the need to get one because I can't get a woman, actually, let me just explain my situation:

    I was voluntarily celibate as a teenager. If I wasn't, we wouldn't be here talking about this. Well, sparing the details I eventually changed my mind on the subject and decided not to be a volcel, and start dating again. This point in time was unfortunately March 2020 and finding a girlfriend amidst lockdowns and social isolation and reconsidering my career didn't go well. Nor has meeting anyone since I stopped being constantly stressed because apparently people are still very fearful of the virus.

    Unfortunately all of this has prevented me from getting laid until an age where not getting laid is considered weird, and it has made me quite self conscious.

    I know I can get girlfriends, I did so multiple times in the past, they just didn't stick around when I didn't do it with them. I know I can probably pick up some women I have met but the uncertainty keeps bothering me.

    Long story short: should I just get an escort and get it over with? Even the playing field so I can stop worrying? No religious nut jobs please I don't have time for you.
     
  2. Yeah yeah,you feel good for a few seconds, then regret hits and you feel sad. not much different from masturbation....stay away
     
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  3. BlindSisyphus

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    Not looking to "feel good" so to speak. I'm looking to have an experience I haven't had so I can be more confident with non-escorts.

    "Voluntarily Celibate" means voluntarily. I've had girlfriends. I've slept, in the literal sense, with women before. Pretty much there isn't anything about being with women I haven't done but sex or being in a long term relationship.
     
  4. Escorts are not a good idea. This is not about money or stds. Its more about the shame of doing the act. Even if it feels good that will last for a few minutes. Then shame and depression will follow. Afterwards the next time will get worse and you feel so empty like death. Nothing can make you feel filled with life.

    This is personal experience plus reading up on sex addiction.

    Trust me dont do it. Wait for love and put yourself out there into the world.
     
  5. Long Range

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    No don't do it. Your virginity is something that is actually quite precious so don't waste it. Also, making the wrong decision here could ruin your life.

    There is nothing to be ashamed of if you are a virgin. I don't think that women normally ask guys if they are virgins. So if it doesn't come up in conversation, then don't mention it until after you have sex, ideally with a girlfriend that you are dating. When the topic does eventually come up, just let her know that you were waiting for the right person and that you were also focusing on other areas of your life.

    Also, your lack of sexual experience shouldn't be a problem your first time, as long as you are good to go. So stay far away from PMO or MO. If you are clean for 90 days you should be good:)
     
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  6. BlindSisyphus

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    What's your story if you don't mind me asking?
     
  7. BlindSisyphus

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    So your advice is nobody can tell?
     
  8. Yeah do it. Try to do it more like a meditation not so much for pleasure. And practice non ejaculatory sex. That way you won't feel any postorgasm sickness or regrets.

    Also it greatly depends on your state of mind while doing it. If you go and have sex with an escort with moralistic ideas, feeling sorry for the girl then the experience will be more traumatizing than liberating. Which can be. It's an special moment.

    Treat the girl with respect and much gratitude but also go prepare to make her have a good time. Read about non ejaculatory sex.

    If you can, go to a brothel so you can sense in person the energy of the girl and if you are compatible. Try not to be so overwhelm by seeing so many girls at the same time.

    One tip will be to see each girl and the 9ne you like you stick it in your head and if another one you like. More then you erase this girl and put the new one. In your head.

    Also talk before sex, what she like ñs to do, can you kiss her, oral sex? That way also you see her attitude and if you are compatible if you notice she is kind of dry then pick another one.

    Also check scort forums on your city and review of escorts that way you can pick her up too.

    Choosing the right escort is essential in having a great experience

    A book about non ejaculatory sex is the Tao of health, sex and longevity by Daniel reids
     
  9. BlindSisyphus

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    I don't know what non-ejaculatory sex is but I actually was thinking about the experience in a meditative way. Not for pleasure but really to help eliminate anxiety over the subject. Basically so I can say, when I'm with a serious woman "no big deal, I've done this before".

    Right now things are tough because the thought lingers in the back of my head. I legit had a girl checking me out the other day and couldn't get the thought of inexperience out of my head, when I know there really shouldn't be any problem and I should just be able to talk to her (or any other woman for that matter) and have a good time. Joke, flirt, whatever. I've done all these things before. I just made a voluntary decision that I decided to reverse but literally at the moment I tried to go out into the world and reverse it there was a pandemic, and riots, and economic disruptions, and then I had to re-think going to college. I got fucking busy and it wasn't my choice.
     
  10. Yup just do it. It'll change you deeply just respect the girl and have a good time.
    Well sex is about gaining energy too, ejaculation MO or sex drains your energy so better not to ever ejaculate.

    And it's way easier if you start having sex and doing it that way, read the book the sex part and some of my threads to get an idea
     
  11. WalkingForward

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    Here in Sweden, buying sex is considered to be one of the absolutely most shameful things a man can do.

    Being someone who has paid for sex is way more shameful than just being a late in life virgin. Now with the pandemic, many people have been deprived of sex for about 2 years.

    My avatar is a photo I took while being in Zoetermeer in the Netherlands btw. I love the Netherlands, but, I don't think it's good for men to buy sex.
     
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  12. BlindSisyphus

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    You seriously telling me to just relax? Cuz tbh fam I really, really would like to. I'd like to think I just had a run of bad luck and nobody cares.
     
  13. WalkingForward

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    Well, I think using prostitutes would just make things a lot worse for you. And it's not good for the prostitutes either, they should be doing something more worthwhile.

    I know that a lot of people, especially women, think it's very shameful for men to use prostitutes. Beyond that, I'm not a dating expert by any stretch, so I can't give you that much dating advice. I just know some things you shouldn't do.
     
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  14. Long Range

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    That is correct, they really won't be able to tell that you're a virgin unless you tell them. I know someone who was in the same situation as yourself, and he went on NoFap, got a girlfriend and is now in a serious relationship and they have regular sex; she didn't care that he was inexperienced.

    If you want to get experience having sex so that you are good in bed, you need to get a steady girlfriend. If you have a girlfriend, you could easily have sex 300 times in a year...that's how you become really good. Also you will be way happier with a girlfriend and who knows maybe you'll live happily ever after.

    But if you go to a prostitute, that is essentially a major escalation to your porn addiction and will likely not lead to good outcomes in your life.
     
  15. BlindSisyphus

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    You can't know how much it means to me to hear that. It has been a big concern for a long time. I was actually recently told the same thing by somebody else.

    Basically it works out the same way as "less attractive women give better head" then I suppose. Good looking guys fuck worse because they get by on their good looks?
     
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  16. Meshuga

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    My two cents: it sounds like you want experience, but an experience with a person who’s entire job is to make you feel good is going to be, at very best, tainted with doubt. You’re not going to actually learn anything about intimacy, so… why?

    Be patient. You’ve waited this long, it’s not going to hurt anything to wait longer. When you get a girlfriend, be honest about where you’re at. If you are with a person who genuinely cares about you, and isn’t there for your money or your body but is really there for you, and of course if you’re there for her, it will be a far more rewarding experience and definitely worth waiting for.

    A lot of guys think women want a technically proficient bed partner and sure, I’m certain there are some out there like that. On the whole, however, this is a lie porn taught us. Most, virtually all, women want connection. When you have connection, and patience with yourself and one another, technical work naturally follows.
     
  17. BlindSisyphus

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    Yeah I was thinking about that first thing you said. An escort might not actually be the best for "technical proficiency" so to speak. They're just there to fuck you.

    I'll add that I didn't wait this long. I got thrown into upside down world.
     
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  18. Meshuga

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    And take your money. And tell you how wonderful it was for them so they have a repeat customer.
     
  19. BlindSisyphus

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    Ok buddy. I told the escort I was talking to I didn't have any money. You got me. You got any other words of encouragement?
     
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