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near relapse strategies

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Deleted Account, Jul 12, 2022.

  1. Today i am on another streak but forgot the day count, maybe 5 or 6. Did watch some porn, tried my typical porn relapse path, ended up bored and quit, now my bitch brain doesnt want to sleep even if i am dead tired, it happens everytime my dopamine spikes because of porn. I guess today i will workout since i still have time, even if is late, but how do you deal when you have a near relapse experience? And you feel that expectation raised up and your dopamine levels keep pushing you?
     
  2. Help ! Heavy urge to watch Jerk Off Instruction or Encouragement by some naked girls with very soft voice.
    Need urgent help !
     
  3. Shut off your computer, lock it away and go take a nap. When you get up have your uncle or someone cool put a passcode on it so you can’t get on the internet anymore without someone there to let you in
     
  4. Rhobar II

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    Sounds like you were experiencing something like withdrawal symptoms.
    One fellow fapstronaut recently posted something that fits very well here: "Don't be afraid of the withdrawals, they are your brain's way of telling you you are not feeding it what it by now considers its normal; a constant daily high."
    Working out is indeed the right way of coping with that. But when you are unable to sleep, try to work out until you are literally tired.
     
  5. IGY

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    That is not near a relapse, it is a relapse.
     
  6. Well my body is destroyed I can barely walk. Cant workout without proper diet with no schedule.
    I actually relapsed by watching things a few times, but didnt do anything but when I said I stop, I stopped, I went meditating. I strongly feel two brain pathways when I am on day 4 5 at least, its similar when I did quit smoking at 15, I felt smoking but I held a straw like a cigarette and eventually in months I forgot that behavior, then cigarettes were disgusting. Ofc I am playing with fire right now, and I consider a relapse, even I still feel my brain different. I think when pmo everyday, dopamine takes control, is that rush, that chase, finding the best thing, now is not the case because I havent pmo, I just watched then quit and it was easier to quit. For me p is boring without that ending high and the dopamine chase, like I watched several times, but I did quit which was impossible in the past, I know I give my brain a few jerks of dopamine but I find the reasoning to stop and I can stop, its like taking the bull by the horns, if I learn to say no and I somehow delete some patterns maybe it helps me learn better patterns that shadows p. This is what I feel about two brain pathways, even if I watched I am still in control of me, while when doing it everyday there is no reason to say no, I just have to brute force it with locking my phone and get busy, the moment I am idle, I relapse, after 4 5 days I gain control and I just gotta be stubborn.
     
  7. Yea it is because I watched, but for me it was always hard to say no if I start, I dont really consider it a full relapse, because I still feel in control, stronger, more energy, and focused, the only difference is the blue balls. That little dopamine is not enough and it was really hard to put the phone down and walk away, this isnt just chemicals, it needs intelligence to find a reason what I am watching is wrong and I need the power to stop, if I cant have a direct confrontation with my fears I will always relapse at first opportunity, like I lost by watching but at least I didnt do anything and had the strength to put the phone down. I agree coping with just watching is a bad move and its no progress, if I could alternate many clean days with a few watching by mistake I could build a behavior pattern where I say no to very high temptations and not giving an end to dopamine rush, ofc I dont wanna play with this un purpose. But when it happens, it happens and I should be in control, and it will go away eventually
     
  8. lfcmatty

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    I don’t let any urges in to my mind whatsoever. I am aware of triggers and when they appear I observe them but quickly change my train of thought.

    The thought is the very first step of relapse. If you don’t flow with it you won’t go on to the internet and search out something to m over. It really is that simple, but it takes some failures along the way to master it.

    be aware of all your triggers as they happen and try with all your will to change your thought to something different. You will fail, but each time learn from that failure. You will feel like shit every time you fail but as long as you can see that you have progressed from the last failure in some way, then you will be progressively moving in the right direction. An example of moving in the right direction is noting the time of your streaks, if they are getting longer after each relapse then you are improving. Eventually quitting porn will seem easy.

    I can’t view anything porn related, so I deleted anything I could, deleted even instagram and made a conscious decision that I would not view anything ever again. The act of changing my thought when a trigger occurs 99.9% of the time will work in preventing you from viewing porn and then acting out.

    I’ve been addicted since I was a kid and I’m now in my forties, it was the only thing that has worked for me so far
     
  9. FocusIsLove

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  10. lfcmatty

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    I have an app on my phone specifically for NoFap. It even shows me it in graph form which is good as previously it was just a flat line, now it is moving upwards due to all the long streaks
     
  11. FocusIsLove

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    So you're not 500 days clean, but somewhere else in your journey? I just ask because it's rare to see people who have been free for a long time posting here, and when I see them I feel a lot more weight from their advice. Your thoughts seem solid to me, and it's stuff I've tried and am still trying, it's just sometimes, with my lack of success, I feel like maybe I am just chasing a red herring's as far as the things I am trying in recovery.
     
  12. lfcmatty

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    No I’m very low on days. I know what I have said makes me appear as though I have mastered pmo, but really all that has actually happened is that for the first time in my life I’ve been moving forward. Each failure has resulted in a longer streak each time. This really is HUGE for me. Put it this way, I can’t ever remember going more than a whole day with out messing around down there, and I’m 44 now, my earliest memory of this first occurring I was perhaps 6.

    I feel like something has clicked this time, after all the daily failures something has definitely changed.

    I need to start a thread of my own instead of hijacking others so maybe I’ll do that, I’ll document failures because let’s face it, this addiction is good at sneaking up on you when you least expect it, I’m not being too confident due to my past but something has definitely changed.
     
  13. Rhobar II

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    I once also tried quitting pmo while still just watching p without touching myself. This wasn't a solution for me. My p-induced fetishes were just fed again. It's right that your brain is amplifying these reward circuits even more when orgasming to p. However you really need to teach your brain to produce sufficient amounts of dopamine for normal everyday things. This only works by avoiding p completely. I am on a 60+ day streak and last time I made a pizza by myself, I was truly hyped, happy and so exited for eating it. I felt like a happy boy again.
    This only works when avoiding the dopamine wave that p gives your brain.
    Remember p is like a "phenomenal reproduction event" -simulation that you can easily start by just a few mouse clicks.
    Of course it's not healthy for your brain to experience something like this every day/every week.
     
  14. aminjk91

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    This Strategy could work for while but it will fuels neural pathways of PMO addiction even if you do not masturbate or experience orgasm. if you watch P eventually Dopamine level will rise and down regulation of dopamine Receptors Occur.
     

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