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I went to a professional cuddler today

Discussion in 'Loneliness' started by fremdkoerper, Jul 6, 2022.

  1. fremdkoerper

    fremdkoerper Fapstronaut

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    Hey everyone. A few weeks ago I was searching the internet for ways to reduce loneliness and the craving for cuddling and missing the warmth of another human body. I stumbled across a website where you can pay someone for a session of cuddling. The service is explicitly non-sexual, any sexual-like behaviour / touching of the intimate areas is forbidden and results in ending the session immediately.

    So I booked an appointment with a women (in some cities there are also men offering this service) who is a professional and full-time cuddler. I was super excited. This afternoon I went to a spa-like furnished flat in a nice neighbourhood in the city I live. First we had a little chit-chat, then we both signed the rules for the cuddling-session (containing different things, most importantly: no sexuality, no filming/fotos, personal hygiene). I payed the agreed amount of money and went to the bathroom to put on some cozy clothes.
    When I was ready I followed the cuddler to the bedroom where she had already put on some relaxing music. I sat on the bed and got even more excited. We started by sitting at the bed, facing each other and holding each others hands. We looked each other into the eyes and it immediately started to feel less weird. We did a little bit more smalltalk while sitting like this, maybe for one or two minutes, smiling at each other, laughing from time to time. Then she told me to lay down comfortably. She laid down inside my armpit and we started to cuddle. It felt really good. No pressure, no expectations, just relaxation. After a few more minutes it felt like we would know each other already for a long time and if it would be the most common thing to do on a Wednesday afternoon: Pay someone you don't know to cuddle. As she told me, this feeling of connectedness and knowing each other for a long time comes from a hormone called oxytocin, the "bonding and cuddling hormone". I felt at home and very present in each moment and as if everything was just alright. We changed positions a few times, caressed each other, she was also massaging my neck and arms a little bit. One and a half hours flew by like nothing.
    When the time was over, she left the bed and told me that I could stay in there a few minutes longer to feel into everything a bit more. When I was ready I got up, went to the bathroom to change again and, after a little more smalltalk, left.

    Afterwards I felt great. Very relaxed, with a little smile on my face, happy. All the things that worried and stressed me in the last days just seemed to be not as important anymore. I really enjoyed the non-sexual atmosphere of this session, the absence of any sexual expectations helped me relax very profoundly. And because of this, now I could also imagine doing this with a man. I'm kind of curious if it would be very different. But also I'm sure it is different with every person.
    However: I will definitely book a second session ;) Would you also try it?
     
  2. FREE72

    FREE72 Fapstronaut

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    It's wonderful you had a positive experience. I hope the nice emotions last. Thanks for sharing.

    No, I would never do this, personally.
     
  3. I have never tried this myself, but I have spoken with others who have. And they all relate similar reactions to the session as your own. They are thankful to have found this service and are able to relax in the non-sexual activity. Not all human touch and interaction has to be sexual.
     
  4. So you just paid a prostitute and didn't get sex?

    Come on man, get some self control. Winners don't do this kind of thing.
     
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  5. im_done

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    Glad you had fun. It's easy to judge, but many people don't realize how little friends/relationships/marriages are happening. Assuming you're a guy, this is a much better alternative to hurting a crowd of people, which a lot of men are resorting to due to lack of affection.
    I personally wouldn't do it. If we ain't doing anything, I ain't paying anything.
     
  6. JoeinUSA

    JoeinUSA Fapstronaut

    While battling dopamine addiction, don't add to it another chemical addiction of oxytocin - something also achieved in this case by paying strangers with no intention of making a spiritual bond with you, or any genuine self offer of real love, but only physical touch, the objective of which is to trigger a brain chemical, nothing more. I suspect also that you are triggering dopamine as well, as you state, "I sat on the bed and got even more excited." Don't let this also become a porn substitute (Psub). Supposedly, you could achieve the same thing (pseudo-friendship) with a man, right? Or, is that not what you're really going for? Hence, my point.

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  7. fapequalsdeath

    fapequalsdeath Fapstronaut

    I think you shouldn't pay for cuddling but instead go out meet a woman who would like to cuddle with you. If I was to pay I'd expect to "play" How much did it cost btw?
     
  8. I can't believe it's come to this in society where a man who is looking for female companionship cannot find it without paying for it. I don't blame @fremdkoerper for doing it, but what does it say about our society that men would feel compelled to do this? I think we put women on too high a pedestal and that's why a 5/10 female (in the looks department) can get a man, but a 7/10 man cannot get a woman (just my observation).
     
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  9. williamwilson

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    Are you sure that oxytocin also creates addiction as dopamine does. As far as I know not every hormone is the same. For example serotonin doesn’t create dopamine like addiction. It has a different pathway in the brain.

    Humans have the need to be intimate: I mean physical intimacy. Touch and to be touched. And this need is different than the strictly sexual need. In fact, some more traditional services such as non-erotic tissue message, and even barber shops and medical examinations are used to satisfy the need of intimate behavior.
     
  10. JoeinUSA

    JoeinUSA Fapstronaut

    The poster named oxytocin and brought it up as something he was getting off on, pleasurably speaking. I'm confident that indulging any pleasure appetite in life can be addicting, and hormone based, whichever hormone it is; hence, my comment. Maybe the poster was mistaken of the precise hormone if you know something more about it. Maybe it is all dopamine. Yes, not all pleasure is bad - pleasure is necessary in the right places and with moderate appetite, but like others, I don't think the paid cuddler service is going to be a solution here, but more likely compound problems of real loneliness and overlooked, bypassed relationships in real life - not to mention the "prostitute-like" aspect of it, which is also somewhat betrayed as an subconscious motive. Like the guy in the barber shop you mention, why not employ a male cuddler if that's the basic friendship contact that is being sought (I suspect not) - and, even that is not genuine friendship. I don't think the behavior will ultimately help but only create deeper voids and deeper needs for addictive behavior to self-medicate and anesthetize pain from inner wound. The poster asked our thoughts on it.
     
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  11. FREE72

    FREE72 Fapstronaut

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    Agree 100%
     
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    Prayer To Jesus Christ | Praise, Worship and Pray To Jesus Right Now Prayer Against Every Evil - Very Powerful Jesus Christ will save me from the evil of masterbation and porn.
     
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  13. ajstath

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    I have considered doing this as I'm pretty sure I'm suffering from touch deprivation. I'm not a particularly touchy-feely person but it's only natural to need some degree of physical touch. The cuddling website that I looked at was mainly non-professional cuddlers (so no money is exchanged). A few of them did charge but I don't think it'd be worth paying more for essentially the same thing.
     
  14. Spekky

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    I had a cuddle session with my dad. I felt like I was six years old. I wish that we could do it again!
     
  15. renewing

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    Not with a man. Am straight guy.

    Thanks for sharing. I need that.
     
  16. Bloodstream

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    If it works for you then do it, but you might want to think twice about paying for something like this. It can cause an addiction in itself.
     
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  17. ShadyPerson

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    I can see myself being so lonely and touch-deprived that I'd die from it before I could see myself paying for any (sexual or not) intimacy. Idk if that's me being too proud to consider it or what but it do be like that.

    However I don't necessarily think it should be looked down to when people pay for this sort of thing. We live in a society where an increasing number of people are very lonely and don't really have these type of relationships naturally. (There are actual studies showing for instance that an ever growing portion of the adult population, men and women alike, have never had sex in their lives, which is a good indicator that the overall amount of human intimacy is on a decrease.) So if someone can't find someone with whom to cuddle without paying, it's fine to use money on it.
     
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  18. MrPriest

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    I'm going to be quite blunt

    I think this is dangerous, you are paying to simulate human connection with another person, oxytocin is quite a strong neurotransmitter, you may quite easily end up hooked up to the experience, and even get to the point to feel heartbroken if it stops, even when it was just a transactional business experience and not real to begin with.

    Get yourself a dog, petting your dog and having it sitting next to you will have nearly the same effect it terms of relaxation and oxytocin, with a very key difference, it will be real.
     
  19. I don't think it is fair to criticize you. This seems much more healthy than paying for sex. IF it helps in your recovery from porn and masturbation then great. I would try it just once out of curiosity if the opportunity would present itself and the price is fair, I think it is fun, but I am not searching for it though.

    And we should also consider that nowadays sex does not guarantees an emotional connection. I have met women who are very insecure about having an emotional connection and wont cuddle, like they are just in it for the fun, and of course that has made me feel like just a toy but this is also a reality in our society so I agree we should not look down on OP for this.
     
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  20. Perhaps view it as a form of counselling. Counselling is ultimately aimed at helping a client reach autonomy over the decisions etc they make. You wouldn't want to become dependant on it, but as a 'check-in', it goes a long way to safeguarding your mental wellbeing. If hugging someone can encourage a certain level of self care that people might have neglected or is unable to fulfil through other means, for whatever reason, then what is the harm of it? If you don't have to pay for it, bonus. But provided it helps in someway, I wouldn't even say there was anything wrong with paying for it.

    Perhaps it's about being mindful of any dependency on it.
     
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