Current State of Masculinity/Being a man

The end goal is probably population reduction (if people don't breed, the population is reduced without need for genocide) and technocracy, brave new world style. I don't understand the motivation, and I don't like it.

Not that anyone is ever successful doing anything on a long enough timeline, however. Icarus comes to mind.

Every story requires a protagonist and an antagonist.

 

the recent encounters with girls told me i am very manly.

i asked them what it is .. here are their answers :

you do what you do
you are urself
you are cool
you have your own opinion
you are confident
you disagree a lot and i like that because a lot of man only agree to score and that is manipulation.
i like that you listen to metal with me even most girls including myself dont like it.
you are free



here you got some ideas.

just be your unfiltered self.

Being myself got me banned here. people or organizations that cant handle opinions no matter how harsh they are show incredible weakness. you will always have haters when you are urself. When ur not urself you are just a people pleaser to feel accepted. funny thing is you get tolerated that way but never accepted. You have to deal with the haters otherwise you will never be urself.

 

In a way, I think being a man is about purpose, direction and responsibility.

How many men are spending all their free time in escapism, in meaningless pursuits, in front of the Xbox or the computer (watching porn?), while their wives/girlfriends are doing the dishes, laundry, taking care of the kids? How many men have no purpose in life? No discipline, no motivation, and no will? How many men are disconnected from their inner truth and quest for freedom? How many men are avoiding responsibilities? How many men are going to the gym to look big to compensate for their insecurities?

I have avoided responsibilities all my fucking adult life. I have been a wimp, seeking pleasure, never really challenging myself. Do I live the life I know I'm supposed to live? Hell no. Do I have the discipline I know I must develop? Again, I fail. I'm I disconnected from my inner truth? Sadly, yes...

But when I look at the state of the world, and I see climate change, economical and political instabilities, resource depletion, overpopulation, environmental degradation... Obviously the picture is not pretty. These are the challenges of our time and the times to come. This is the world we are in. This is our battle. We have to rise to the occasion. I know I have to.

The time has come to be real men.

 

@TetraVaal sounds very good. you definetly have an idea what it means to be man. but its more man than just taking responsibility for our live. Women have to do that too. Its also about being ur unfiltered self , taking the lead and creating (children , work) and not get urself stepped on.
Its also fucking manly to go drink every weekend. Basically do what you want. If it means fapping and playing video games and thats what you want that is in essence manly it only becomes "unmanly" when it is so much that you cant handle urself anymore.

Here is a nice video about the topic and i recommend it to everyone who wants to have healthy relationships with woman (which means establishing boundaries and punish them for bad behaviour , lead when there is to lead , and love them to the max (that also means boundaries)).
You have to be the rock for them. Thats why i recommend everyone only talking about problems with their man friends or parents etc. Woman cant love you when you are weak.

Dont know why he pitches his voice , it also deals with pickup and why it sucks.

 

So @Philip1990, why did you become a people pleaser and get someone to plead for you to come back here after being banned, just to feel accepted and tolerated, if you regard NoFap as an incredibly weak organization? Why not be yourself?

 

Thank you. Someone had to say it. Observing trends from a very limited sample of the population does not mean you can draw conclusions about how a whole population should learn or be treated. Besides, his 'observations' could easily be influenced by other things, like his preconceptions on gender, or his own teaching style. Furthermore, opportunity does not directly link to result. It's not an A to B like relationship (opportunity to result). There are many other factors involved.

At least Immor is right in saying that not everyone is equal. But that doesn't mean you can start saying that people shouldn't be given equal opportunity.

 

Equal opportunities like scholarships for women only, mentor programs for women only, executive fasttracks for women only, and workplaces where men have to walk on eggshells but women can say whatever they want?

 

Which universities/ workplaces does this apply to? Certainly in some sciences and engineering, the population is dominated by males, so although it's not ideal, women only scholarships etc can encourage more women to enter the that specific workplace.

The workplace you described is probably apparent in a profession dominated by women. Just as women are currently undervalued in the (male dominant) engineering workplace, men are undervalued in female dominated professions, like nursing say. The idea is to equal out the ratio of men/ women workers to ensure more reliable (ideally equal) rights for each gender.

 

You guys seen this? Anyone interested in this subject matter - I'd say it's worth watching.

("trigger" warning - there's a quick flash around the beginning of a lady without a shirt on. If that will set you off - don't watch of course.)

Spoiler

 

Good one, thanks for pointing it out. Although I noticed people tend to prefer anecdotes over studies.

What she said in @sandwich77's video: Amazing that people believe evolution shaped the sexes so differently yet supposedly didn't touch the emotions, motivations, talents, brain.

They are not only less valued in those fields, they also plain don't want to work in those fields. So even if they could be as good, what is the point if they are going to quit soon after learning how to do the job properly. There is no good reason to try to change their minds so hard.
I also doubt men or women are going to have more rights when they are working jobs they don't enjoy.