9 months hardmode but don’t see any changes

I agree with you i am at 2.9 yr recovery and the brain is still recovering

 

Started having daily morning hoods

 

This is so daunting.

 

We’re you in hard mode all this time?

 

Yes mostly struggled with fantasy but i didnt watch porn or binge

 

You dont have any benefits?

 

Right on, I’m just trying to understand why guys stay in flatline for so long, I know about the PAWs deal. Even guys going hardmode stay in Flatline without relapse, shits scary and discouraging.

 

I’m 5 months in and I have had withdrawals, as time has gone buy they are slowly getting better but the lack of feelings and motivations suck

 

Crazy right? Paws sucks and we fried our Brains the same way a heroin addict does for 20 years. We just need to keep pushing forward and it will eventually go away.

 

Yeah man, I’m 32 and the past years I was on top of the world and I had many plans for this year I been held back because of the withdrawals. My gf and I have had sex on and off for the past 10yrs before we became official. The past two years we had sex three to five times a day and then my little friend couldn’t get up.

 

Pied cured after 4 years in this testimonial video submitted to Noah church

 

I seen that video twice and dude kept relapsing, he didn’t talk much about flatline cause like most of us feel other symptoms but not a lot of people talk about that either.

 

Another is he did some Rewiring but thing I don’t get is how does Rewiring work since we are natural born with awaken libido, how does getting intimate with some wake it. I would think we just naturally should wait for it to come back.

 

I think you're progressing well and I've ways been an advocate of using pills during rewiring stage and slowly wean off it just like in your case.
But to answer your question, you need more time to get that erection jus by visual cues or even a slight movement of life down there jus by thought and visual. I can vouch that you are nearing that phase and it might be jus around the corner. Its the conditioning to looking at porn and touching to get aroused which has overridden the default settings of erections from visual cues. So it will take time. Because years of brain conditioning takes times to be undone.

 

I have more or less the same problem: I've been using porn since puberty, now I'm in 40s. I've been off PMO for two years now with occasional relapse where i would watch some porn pics for minute or two because i wanted to see if i will be aroused since i wasn't from RL. It did have slight effect but every time less and less. I haven't done it last few months...
So i have wife and she knows everything and she's very supportive and also wishes to have sex but i just don't feel like it and can't get aroused and if i do, I'm not entirely hard or i get exhausted rather quickly. Also when i finish, i can't get hard anymore but that's something i have never been able to do with a woman in my life, only by porn...
I have been taking plant supplements to boost my libido, like epimedium, maca, ashwagandha and such but it doesn't work.
Also I'm not easily excited by life in general: if something big happens, like when we managed to sell our house for a good price, i didn't feel anything, but i do get upset if something isn't right by my measure.
I would describe my state as if my pleasure seeking receptors are worn-out but my panic receptors work just fine.
Also i don't have mooring wood or have it very rarely and only if i need to pee.

What i did notice is that sometimes, but very rarely, i do get excited by real life, like if i see a woman which i find arousing, but it is very rare, like once in a four or five months and it is very weak feeling, like my penis would like to get up but it can't, and the feeling disappear in less than a minute...

Edit:
I've just been rewatching Sex and the city with my wife and there's a scene in S01E11 where guy can't get up because he's taking Prozac because he was unstable before and had to have constant sex because he was aroused all the time, but now after prozac he's stable and happy because he doesn't have the urge any more.

So yea, i think the problem is that pleasure seeking receptors are worn-out... and i have found that the state of not being able to experience excitement is called anhedonia and the symptom is the loss of libido...

I'm concerned and really don't know what to do...

 

The correct answer is total abstinence until your brain rebalances itself and switches your libido back on.

I could give you some fluff advice about continuing with sex and using pills but I don't want you to be here in 10 years time still asking the same question.

 

You only talk about erections but do you actually ever FEEL horny? An erection with no libido is like wearing a strap-on, yeah it might be hard and do the job but it's numb and wooden, to me that's not much of a sex life regardless of whether it physically works or not.