Why do some porn addicts never get ED?

I never had ED and I used to PMO a lot. I guess genetics do play a role.

 

Maybe y'all brains become accustomed to it overtime. As soon as you quit your brain went on flatlines. Hence the pied effect....

 

PIED has a huge mental element, it's about conditioning and desensitization. Some people are more susceptible and it effects people different ways. I'm positive that eventually with enough PMO you're going to encounter some sort of dysfunction.

 

Same. Been fapping since 12, and now I'm 26. I never had ED no matter how much I did it in the day. Though I now have a f-up dick that isn't shrinking properly in flaccid state like it did before. It now hangs with swollen, dilated veins all the time, especially when I'm standing (similarly how varicocele appears for some when standing). Currently a problem for me and possibly a cause for ED in the future due to some type of venous leak.
What you most have is mostly a psychological problem not physical.

 

I would agree with some of the posts above, my answer would be there are multiple variables for arousal + non-arousal. It would be too difficult to say that one single thing is the deciding factor (perhaps unless seeing a doctor/physician who can highlight an obvious medical problem).

After flatline it seems that non-sexual (morning wood) erections come back first. For me (and others on here) it is a good first indicator that flat line is reducing. But as for erections during / for sex, as above, desensitisation, brainwashing, performance anxiety are all factors. Perhaps the porn you watch is fairly softcore / close to the real sexual experience, hence maybe real sex is still very arousing for you despite the porn use.

For many on here including myself, as the appetite for porn niches increases (which it will do given enough time), these may take you into areas where your arousal is dictated by stimuli or scenarios that are unlikely to be replicable in real life (i.e fetishes / kinks etc).

I.e, if your head isn't in the game and you're not aroused by what's in front of you, or need something niche for arousal, then PIED will probably be more likely. If you watch a ton of Porn, but still have great desire for real-life sex, you're probably less likely to struggle with erections (taking into account good physical health and other contextual stuff).

My 2 cents anyway...

 

The short answer to your question is, I don't think the amount of Porn consumed is primary factor for PIED.

 

You are right about this. Almost always amateur (and natural) for the past 10 years, when I was a kid I watched professional and as I grew older I realized that no woman in real life scenario screams and acts like that as in the pro porn, which is all faked and staged money making business for naive coomers. If I sensed faking, silicone breasts, I turned immediately off or skipped.

 

If my dick shrivels up after masturbating to porn, is that likely PIED and/or flatline?

 

I've experienced PIED but it's always temporary for me. If I PMO'd every day, then I get PIED but things go back to normal when I abstain from PMO for several weeks or so, except for maybe premature ejaculation.. that's more of an issue for me.

 

Mine does the same too I need answers to that also I do think it’s part of flatline tho

 

I see. My dick shriveled up after masturbating and binging to porn for a while. And at the same time, I started getting brain fog and issues with my memory and related anhedonia.

Hopefully abstinence can fix this shit.

 

Yeah I get brain fog n memory issues too like bad memory point where I feel dumb almost lose comprehension but yea I be thinking the same abstinence shall work hopefully

 

Well, I think for me I am cursed. I developed a fetish for plus sized/bigger women in puberty. It was legit, a wet dream at like 12 or 13. That developed the attraction. Now, what to do I have? A preference for bigger women and a fetish to go with it. I never masturbate before my first time having sex with my girlfriend at 18. She was thin. The women I viewed were thicker/bigger. Well, my time having sex with her, I was like a fucking stud in bed. Once I started masturbating (by the way, my mom told me - oh it's natural - I have developed resentment for her because it ruined my life). I couldn't perform. My ex got upset with me and I would masturbate - she found what I was viewing. The performance was just never the same and we broke up. I never stopped masturbating. In my 20s, I dated a few women, but idk, I just got worse over time. I performed here and there, but was never in a long term relationship.

I feel like I am a freak now. I fucking hate myself so much with this stuff, because there's no way I can change this in my brain. My one existence I have this and I am now in hell.

 

I don’t think you’re cursed. And you’re not a freak. You have an addiction, man. When the brain is deep in this shit, it takes a long time to rewire it. It’ll take consistent time and effort, but I don’t think hope is lost for you.

What are the woman you date usually like? Part of the problem with that first girlfriend seemed to be that you just weren’t attracted to her. Or at least, you weren’t attracted to her in the same way you’re attracted to other women. Have you dated any plus size women? There are many of them in the world, many who would be very happy I think to be with someone who finds them incredibly attractive and sexy. Maybe that’s the place to start if you haven’t gone down that avenue already.

 

So, I think you are a bit off with some of the assumption on my first girlfriend - but I can get into further detail here.

1. My ex-girlfriend and I met before I was a heavy porn user - but that was back in 2006. I was a teenager and while I viewed some stuff, nothing was NEAR as accessible or intense as it is now. I met her and was actually in love with her and had feelings for her. Unfortunately, she was very hot and cold with me and was long distance. She dated other guys and ghosted me and I would always be led back to her. I got caught up in how beautiful she was, and I still do that today with women. We met and I lost my virginity to her. Truthfully, back then, I remember being 18 and waking up with morning wood so hard I'd have to lean over to piss in the toilet. My fetish was there, but wasn't as intense I think.

2. I started masturbating after being with her a few times. I performed great before then, but was experiencing difficulty because once I realized alot of other people masturbated I was like...wow! This feels great! It wasn't trauma or anything, I just liked how it felt and I couldn't stop. Well, next thing I know she saw the porn I was viewing and she basically said I was sick - and told me to stop. I could get hard with her, but couldn't climax. Then eventually I got to pleasure her with my fingers and oral. We later broke up because she was under the assumption a girl who added me on myspace was someone I was seeing - I wasn't seeing the girl and I was very hurt by her leaving me.

3. After that I had a handful of girls I was able to hook up with - some were thin, and the next girl I couldn't perform with because, well...I would masturbate to porn 2-3 times per day. I also didn't have the feelings for her as I had for my ex girlfriend. This girl hardley even knew me and told me randomly that she wanted to fuck me. That was it. She dragged me around emotionally because I was too nice emotionally and was hurt by her too.

4. Eventually at age 23, I went to meet another girl in a different state who I met on a dating app. It was for plus sized women. This was the first time I dated a plus sized girl. I felt horrible because I was and am still extremely self-conscious about dating and being in the presence of bigger women. I am afraid of being seen - or in the closet about that. I was nervous at first with her, but eventually, I was able to have sex with her. We had sex quite a bit that night and the next morning. But when I came home, I was distant because I had so much anxiety about being around her.

5. I remember going to a strip club when I was younger after I started PMO and could not get hard because the women were thinner, and I was constantly viewing bbw and plus size women. The issue I realized was, it was easier to view them in private, but their size in person is intimidating - I am only 5'7 and they all usually date taller guys because they are all insecure with their size.

6. I met a girl who I was physically attracted to and dated for about a year, but she lost weight - which for me somehow causes me to lose attraction, because I was always physically attracted to a fuller figure on a woman's body. So we only had sex once when we first met. I got hard, but I couldn't climax. She did. Unfortunately, though, I kept masturbating to porn and I was more with her just to say I had a girlfriend rather than to appreciate her. I would go to her apartment all the time and spend the night, and sometimes she'd grab my dick in the morning when i had a hard on - it was all weird. She later hooked up with her now boyfriend and left me. He's loaded with $$$ so that mad me feel insecure even more.

7. Dating continued over time. I was able to date another thinner girl who somehow made me fall hard for her personality and her beautiful smile. But before her, I started reading erotic literature, which I think is even worse than porn, because you absorb the story as facts. So, I got into cuckold porn for some reason. And that scared the fuck out of me, because I'd see couples and think they were part of the story and it flipped me the fuck out and still kind of does. I sit here and think, how the fuck did I view this shit? I realized that it was from literature and other people's fantasies.

8. I was on antidepressants in my mid 20s on and off until last year. I fucking hated them. I'm also alone a lot. I'm an only child and moved away from a place where I had so called friends.

9. Also, I viewed a lot more interracial porn over time, so the women were black or mixed and were bbw which is not conventional here. I'm white and not a big guy, so I see people already get stares and I get very scared of getting stares. My own family also attacked me in high school because I wanted to take a black girl to homecoming, and I had to change my mind because I was sick and it wasn't really the case - my parents attacked me over it and it was very traumatizing for me. One of the first porn stars I found was a black bbw and I was in love with her. And I think she kind of sparked that part with me, idk.

10. In 2020, I met a girl who was an hour away, went to see her and went on dates. She was a plus sized woman and things were fine. But, then during covid I said - okay, going to quit this addiction. I was on an antidepressant then, so I noticed that when I was like 40 days in, I was not noticing anything different. My mom found out about this girl and the first thing she did was criticize her weight. Nothing nice about her. When the girl came to my town, I was very anxious because I'd be seen with this girl. I had so much fucking anxiety, I couldn't perform - I was freaking the fuck out. I also saw someone a long time ago post on here saying that some guys are permanently damaged. I broke it off with her because I felt like I was damaged permanently and couldn't perform. She told me she wanted sex and what'd I do? I ended it because I was scared.

11. I was in therapy later, still am. I was on meds and met 2 girls. Both of whom were what one would consider plus size and one was definitely a bbw, but was nice to me - I unfortunately was an asshole beacuse I am ashamed of dating women of that size even though I view them in porn. I was able to perform with her the night we met, but I Was very hot and cold after. Because I am simply ashamed of my own attractions and it has haunted me all my life. The next day I met another girl and was able to have some foreplay with her and was hard. We didn't have sex though.

12. Testosterone levels are in the high 400s, but when I was coming off my antidepressants, I had more anxiety and then went down to like 280 and then went back up - it all scared me and made me feel like my body was falling apart.

So, at 34, I have not dated anyone else recently. I just feel dead inside emotionally, like I chase certain women who treat me like shit and I push away women who are kind to me. I've questioned everything in life - my mortality, time, coming to terms that my parents will die one day. When they are gone I have no idea how I am going to make it.

I also see how I have changed as a person and I wonder if its me and my experiences or society too. I now have a difficulty and fear of settling down with someone. LIke I want the ultimate scenario of sex with a bbw but I'm afraid of inviting this person to a party or with family etc. Becauase I will come off as some kind of freak or something. And I always think, if I move to city x then my life will be better, because I don't like where I live.

My main fetish is a weight gain fetish on a woman's body and that goes with the bbw side of things. I went to a sex therapist who told me to join a community where people have it. This individual also told me that porn addiction is "bullshit" and then I left them. The community also just has women who are making onlyfans accounts all the time. That is what it has come to.