How much MO is too much?

I think masturbating weekly is too much. Why would you want to be enslaved to it daily?

 

I think it's different if you're faced with an addiction, than just an average person who doesn't have a problem.

 

I think 1 MO a day is a healthy maximum for someone who is single and doesn't use porn or have addict behaviors like edging. The demands of a long-term relationship might make 1 a day hard to continue. Porn has its problems.

 

In my opinion it depends strongly on how you masturbate... Take porn out of the equation and I think a few times a week is ok for a single guy.

Add porn... and I believe no amount is healthy. It's a bloody drug, it will get to you and it's very very hard to keep it under control and not end up escalating, as we all know very well.

 

If single... Maybe have a "date" with yourself every couple of weeks. But I think first it all has to be brought under control otherwise it's back to square one.
I'm on the fence with the future at the moment as I'm single and mo would be my only sexual outlet for the present time. I'll look at this after 90 days and see how I feel. However in my present frame of mind I really do not feel like moing at all its caused me too much pain, stress, anxiety and loss of time and dignity over 32 years.

 

Umm... Well this is awkward.

 

Zero. Don't do it at all. Masturbation is unhealthy neurologically. It is not as bad as porn, but it is still bad. When you orgasm, you release oxytocin into your brain, which is a chemical that binds you to whatever helped release it. In a healthy relationship, it would bring you closer to the woman you were with (I argue that that should only be your wife.) When it is released while masturbating, you are bonded with the act of masturbating. This causes you to become addicted to masturbation. I have more reasons which I will post later, but I'm pretty busy right now.

 

Don't masturbate if you think it's bad.

Train yourself to know you'll have consequences for masturbation, and eventually your brain will stop trying to do it.

 

To me, masturbating is wrong. It is self love, where as sex and orgasms were meant to be a thing between two people. So any M is to much, however science ways both ways on if it is good or bad for you.

 

Here's that other info I promised. I'm still busy though, so I'm just copying and pasting from a different post I made.
When you orgasm, oxytocin is released into your brain, which bonds you to the person/or thing that helped you release it. (in this case, masturbation) When you masturbate, high levels of dopamine are released into your brain, which can be very addicting, and desensitize it to the simple joys in life, and makes everything feel gray and dissatisfying. These two combined make masturbation by itself addicting. And no one likes how an addict acts, even when he doesn't know he's addicted.
Also, You know the feeling of just wanting more and more. It doesn't go away just because it isn't accompanied by porn. It can be a slippery slope. One month it's just once a week/day, then it's twice, then maybe you add a little bit of porn, (or maybe you don't) and the next thing you know your back to a full blown addiction.
It just isn't worth it. Once you adjust your mentality and get through a good portion of your reboot, it won't even be that hard to not mo. Of course you'll get hit with an urge every now and then, but they will pass.

 

If for no other reason, it's good to not masturbate because that will help build your self control.

 

If you think about it, masturbation is like having gay incest sex with yourself.

 

No, it is not!

 

Okay, let's get something straight; everyone is entitled to their opinion but when scientific and psychological studies show facts contrary to opinions then they become irrelevant.

That being said, medical studies and surveys have shown that masturbation is not harmful in a healthy use and not self-abuse. Isn't it nice to be able to enjoy our own bodies-with or without a partner? Daily is fine and perhaps twice a day, but if that was the case every day of the week-taking away time, energy and focus from other activities/goals-then it becomes troublesome.

 

Let's remember that doctors used to recommend cigarettes to "clean out your lungs" not so long ago. haha.

I would recommend going an extended period of time( a couple weeks or so) without masturbation and see what results you get before you say that M is "good for you".I know if I M'd daily or even weekly I wouldn't be able to concentrate or workout as hard. It gives me a numbing feeling over-all not only physically, but mentally and I don't like it. I'd rather my mind be sharp and mindful. You also have an automatic dispensary system in place as well called wet dreams, but if you go long enough without MO the sperm will be absorbed back into your system.

I guess the question you need to ask yourself is "Is this helping me become the best version of myself?"

 

Please do show me these medical studies and surveys that have shown that masturbation is not harmful in a "healthy use." What defines a healthy use? I guarentee to you that I can find just as many articles for your prior statement that talk about how it isn't healthy. Just like you said they become irrelevant because both scientists, research, studies, and surveys straddle the spectrum. There is evidence for both, you make your decision.

 

CAnd which one of those is the most disgusting and immoral? Hilarious.

 

Once a year still too much

 

I readily admit I have no scientific studies ready to hand. I am not particularly surprised by such studies, and they may be correct...(pay attention here) within the scope of what they studied. (This is true, by the way, of ANY "scientific study.")

For one obvious point, no scientific study can examine whether there is a moral harm to any action -- it's outside the realm of what they can measure or observe. So whether masturbation is, say, immoral or not, they cannot decide. If it is immoral, then I think it's rather obviously bad for you.

Second, if you think about it, it's not hard to see that something could have bad effects -- in either physical or psychological terms -- but be very hard to quantify.

Here's my thesis: masturbation, by it's nature, is self-focused. There is NO other person involved. Even if you're fantasizing about someone else -- even if it's your spouse or significant other -- that other person is still not involved in any way. The only "partner" in masturbation is a figment of your own imagination, which you control 100%. Think about how this is going to work: you're satisfying yourself, while you imagine your partner doing...what? Doing whatever YOU want, right? There's no aspect of this in which the partner ever does what s/he wants.

Now, if what you want is to have your sexuality attuned to your own self, your own needs, your own wants, then masturbation is just fine -- it will train you and your brain and appetite to self-focus. Masturbation is essentially self-love, self-focused sex. It's essentially selfish.

Real sex between two people, is it all about two selves, turned to themselves? Is that a path for a healthy relationship? "Let's have sex -- and, by the way, my primary goal is to satisfy MYSELF." Of course, not many would say it out loud; but my point is, masturbation trains you to approach sex in that fashion.

Now, how would someone structure a scientific study to measure this? I'm not sure; I think it would be really difficult.