How much MO is too much?

How much heroin is ok for a recovering addict?

 

So This is one reason why I am here I think that, twice a day is fine if you are single, but it is not the ideal

if you do it less often the orgasums are better. There is nothing morally wrong it though I am giving it up for 90 days so that I can control it and do it once a week, well I will actually use a sex now. It is better than sex with a condom on and about 80% as good as normal sex on average.

If any of you guys are virgins, and want to know what sex is like. Wait until you can control yourself then buy a fleshlight

On a sidenote I can masterbate while kissing a friend. that is not like regular masterbation becasue you have contact of someone else.

 

I would say any MO is too much.

OK, you may not be able to get a GF, you may be old and widowed, or your wife may have cut off or severely limited sex, but in my experience MO is never ever satisfying and it tends to make you want to do it more and more which ends up quite unhealthy.

Just my opinion.

 

if you have an addicted personality and you cant handle it maybe.

Dont overkill anything too much of anything is bad for us.

 

^^ THIS HERE IS A BRILLIANT POST !

AAAH, YOU ENEMY OF NOFAP !! What are you doing here when you think there is no problem with fapping and its not wrong, or unhealthy ????
You try to make us slip, huh ?
Nice try, man.

 

My opinion is, that ONE TIME IN A LIFETIME IS TOO MUCH !!! Since it makes you addicted. I wish so much i never started all this fapping thing, it gave me so much troubles and negative consequences... So if i had to say my word after all that i have seen, and continue seeing by reports of other people, EVEN ONE TIME IS TOO MUCH !!! YOU SHOULDNT HAVE STARTED IT, IF YOU SHOULD, THEN WHY ARE YOU HERE ON THIS FORUM ... BUT SINCE YOU STARTED IT, AND NOW ITS DIFFICULT TO QUIT IT, DONT EVER START IT AGAIN .... !!!! NEVER !!!

 

I have to agree with solsticeboy
Some people are not here becasue they hate masterbation I have watched many youtuve videos where the people did no fab and after went back to no fab the difference is that they no longer watched porn and they MO less often and have more control over their lives

 

Alright, but the problem is that they still suffer the negative effects of MO, and still are addicted to it. Its on their own will, they decide what to do. ;D I see the benefit in quitting forever, and never going back. Because for me this is what really fixes the things.

 

If you watch the ted talks on porn. Studies show that porn rewires your brain and is bad for you

There are no studies that show that porn is good for you
there are some that suggest MO is

So let us agree what p is bad

if MO was bad then sex would be bad

 

I dont agree that MO is good, i would never agree with it, whatever studies you show me. Just can't agree with it. This is one of the most harmful things you can do to yourself, although it feels good. The traps are placed where the food is. Feel me ?
If you want to continue MOing, then that's your decision. Why do you keep a counter, when you will continue relapsing ? And if you dont plan on continuing to relapse, then you shouldn't think that MO is good. Isnt it so ?

 

I said and I quote

So let us agree what p is bad

so lets stop arguing.

 

Excuse me if i sounded rude, its not how i wanted it to be. Sometimes it seems that i speak too rude, but i really don't mean it. ;D

 

guys, opinion stays opinion! Even if you have found scientific research to back it. And even those "facts" can be wrong after all. Science is not guaranteeing truth.

About the originally question, in my opinion it depends on the way you do it and why you do it.
I have done it with edging for nearly hours (without porn). I've done it until my dick hurt. I've done it in a porn cinema because I thought I couldn't bear some days without it. I've done it because of frustration, depression or heartsickness. I've done it instead of going to school, to work or instead of anything at all. I've done it in the bright day and at 4am.
But sometimes it was just a quick fap which didn't hurt me at all...
(I don't say "a quick fap" is good or so. It was just not affecting my life back then.)

 

This is going absolutely over the top.
Here we are talking about abuse of porn and unhealthy sexual activities.
Masturbation itself is not bad! This is 19th century!
We need to understand it and use it wisely - Different people have different needs
At the age of 16 the urge is bigger than with 66 and so on.
So please be a bit different and don't create unnecessarily guilt feelings in other people.

 

its one thing to do it over and over for pleasure, or if you truly need to M to get it off your mind, if you can not focus on something truly important. but I don't m just for pleasure, I slpiiped up once in the past few weeks, and never again for pleasure!!!!

 

I know some people don't like these discussions but i thing they are a good thing. i dont expect everyone to have the same viewpoint but thats what forums are for , read all you can and make your own opinion.
For me, Porn is the problem, . Most of the issues that guys have with Erectile dis-function are from porn and edging.
Masturbating for 5 minutes thinking of normal sex with a partner has little side effects, men did this for millions of years, unlike watching porn for hours on end edging all night thats fucked us all up.

We are addicted to porn, not masturbating, without porn or porn fantasies how many guys would masturbate for hours on end non stop?, not many.

Does masturbating lead to porn again?, maybe but that is for the individual to know about himself,

 

@Booster Hey! I respect your point of view and I agree that P is, at least most of the time, the main villain. But I wouldn't go as far as to say that:

That's a bold statement to say at least. Tell me if I'm wrong, but I'd say that a considerable part of the people here probably started masturbating prior finding P or at least before they started watching it regularly. I myself had been M-ing 2-3 years regularly before P came to picture and I sure as heck was pretty addicted to the habit by then. I have to say, I've also never been a binge M-er either, but that doesn't mean I don't have a problem. The fact that I tried to quit M-ing for 6 years before getting my first breakthroughs this year, says it all.
But that's only my personal experience, of course.
Still, all the years one has spent M-ing, combining the years before and after finding P, the guy must have gotten at least somewhat addicted. A habit of +10 years = Not easy to quit.

I found an interesting quote(From NoFap Reddit) from a book written by some guy named Sigmund Freud. : P

"substitutions for sexual satisfaction are by no means harmless; they dispose a person to the numerous forms of neurosis and psychosis that are conditional upon the reversion of the subject's sexual life to its infantile forms. Moreover, masturbation in no way meets the ideal requirements of civilized sexual morality and therefore drives young people into the very conflicts with the educational ideal that they sought to escape through abstinence. It also corrupts the character through indulgence in more ways than one; first, it teaches people to reach significant goals without expending any effort, by taking the easy route rather than committing all their energies to the task (that is in accordance with the principle that sexuality sets the pattern); secondly, by raising the sexual object in the fantasies accompanying the satisfaction to a degree of excellence that is not easily rediscovered in reality."
Link:https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/3qrfd4/some_words_on_masturbation_from_sigmund_freuds/

But yeah, these are all just opinions and everyone has to make their own conclusions. Peace.

 

@ekoluomu , my point was, not many people jerk off for hours without some kind of porn or porn sub. and its the Dopamine amount for hours on end that has created the Pied, Its all about the dopamine, Its the Dopamine that everyone is addicted to but masturbation on its own was usually a few minute thrill not the 8 hours wankfest edging that people are having now.

 

Exactly. 10/10. I totally agree with you!

 

Nowadays everything is "dangerous", food, internet, people, videogames, bacon, alcohol, sodas, cigarretes, etc. Even drinking too much water or eating too much bananas is BAD for your health. I've always thought it is the amount what hurts you, so if you can control it to me it's fine. I'm addicted to Pepsi, and I'm already drinking just one little can every one or two weeks. And maybe I'll stop drinking it for good. So at the end I agree that MO is not a thing that Satan invented to ruin your life, but get to know how to do it without P and very moderately. That's just my humble opinion