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How to Eliminate Flatlining (this may be controversial, take it or leave it)

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Deleted Account, Oct 15, 2015.

  1. Hey guys, I have found something that eliminates flatlining for me. I'm kind of a health freak, always have been even in the PMO days. I don't take tons of different vitamins and supplements but I do make myself aware of them and try this and that on occasion.

    Anyway, here's my pitch for tribulus terrestris. I'm not making any money off this I promise haha. Anyway, tribulus terrestris is a crazy looking plant that has libido enhancing properties, that part has been scientifically backed pretty well. There are also claims that it raises testosterone and helps with bloodflow, but those are less substantiated, a lot of the research is questionable or not very conclusive. Look into it if you want.

    I'm just speaking from my experience here, which is that ever since I started taking it regularly (daily for a few weeks and then a tolerance break of a few days)... I have not had any flatlining. In the past I'd flatline maybe for a few days every 1-2 months, it was pretty random but definitely scary and devastating. Ever since I started taking tribulus terrestris that totally stopped. So if you hate flatlining give it a try.
     
  2. Mean Machine

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    I took tribulus and for me personally it was either hit or miss. Sometimes it did help, sometimes it didn't. I'll try it again though, what is your opinion on Horny Goat Weed?
     
  3. IGY

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    I am puzzled why you would want to avoid the flatline. I found it to be a wonderful time when I wasn't bombarded with sexual thoughts and images. It meant quite a few days could click by on the counter without me even having to even try.

    Anyway, why would someone trying to overcome porn be consider taking Horny Goat Weed!? :rolleyes:
     
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  4. Italian Guy

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    I eliminate flatline with gym or run.
    For that day my anxiety or pain is delete.
     
  5. Mean Machine

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    Taking Horny Goat Weed for me boosts libido, my nofap journey is all about learning to control my libido not avoiding it all together because let's face it most people do not want to live like this. When flatlining, Horny Goat Weed boosts libido which might take you out of the flatline, this gives you the opportunity to learn to control your libido. The mental strength required to have full control of your thoughts cannot be acquired when flatlining. This is why Horny Goat Weed MIGHT be beneficial for some people.
     
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  6. Horny goat weed was cool for awhile, it did increase my libido but it caused me problems with lightheadedness, and it was sort of like taking an aspirin in that it goes into the body and then out, there really wasn't a cumulative effect. It was also more of a physiological effect than a psychological one. With tribulus terrestris there seems to be a cumulative effect and an emotional one, so I like it better.
     
  7. My answer to your last question is the same as Mean Machine's, it provides a controlled way to challenge yourself to build self-control.

    As for the flatline... yeah sometimes it's beneficial because your mind gets off sex. But more often for me, that was accompanied by being fatigued, having bouts of low self-esteem, etc. Ultimately I'm not looking to have a lower sex drive, I'd love to keep a high one and instead just learn to manage it and channel it correctly to a real woman by overcoming the barriers to doing so and keeping myself away from alternatives like porn.

    Anyway, tribulus terrestris seems to remove the bad effects of the flatline. Horny goat weed would give me that surge of sex drive that tends to make us want to PMO, whereas tribulus having a primarily cumulative effect would just continue to slowly make me feel really manly. It does have an immediate effect for like 1-2 hours afterwards of making you feel very energetic and motivated in a masculine way, but it's not a trigger the way horny goat weed was.
     
  8. n2kv

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    The point of all this is to go back to the natural state of your sexuality, cleared from artificial simulation like porn. If your body react to it by flatlining, it is normal, and a sign that it is readapting, recovering. Putting enhancing, artificial chemicals into your body would only slow down, if not worsen your recovery IMO - although, if things are too bad and this can prevent you from relapsing, it is better than nothing I guess !
     
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  9. Interesting opinion. How do you define "artificial"? Also, perhaps flatlining is abnormal, since it happens during porn addiction recovery, and porn addiction is not normal so neither is recovery from it. The route back home is not necessarily exactly the same as the route you took away from it, especially if it was years ago that you left.
     
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  10. nfprogress

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    @EleventhFinger makes a good point. It is incredibly dicey to try and define the term 'natural' (or equivalently, artificial). I took an entire course on the idea of nature in college and it was absolutely a challenge. Tribulus was big for a time back in my earlier bodybuilding days many years ago. I didn't notice any benefit from it, but could be because my training and diet were already doing quite a lot to keep libido up (and my baseline libido while dieting is typically very high).
     
  11. fantastic1956

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    Interesting post. Not sure why you would take that stimulant to boost libido. I am assuming that it replaces the buzz that watching porn and masturbating gives. If it does not lead to breaking your commitment to not masturbating for the period you have chosen then it has merit. If it does then its like going to Macdonalds to loose weight. I think there is a door through which one passes by leaning into all the emotions and phases of this brain reboot , flatlining being one.
     
  12. n2kv

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    @nfprogress : I agree, @EleventhFinger and yourself are making a good point. I indeed don't think that flatlining is "normal" or "natural" in the sense that our condition isn't to begin with; but I'd say that I would rather accept it for what it is - a sign of recovery - rather than fight it. Idk, it might just be for me, but I find that overanalyzing everything and antagonizing this or that particular symptom, to the point of trying to fix it with products ("natural" or not ;) ) is not a good mindset for the overall reboot. I prefer to be patient, acknowledge and accept the symptoms, as they pass by, for what they are: a sign of healthy recovery, no need to focus on them.
    I know, easier said than done ;) and I'm clearly the first one to fall, for instance, for the classic "let's just edge a little bit to see if it still works". Anyway, stay strong fellows !
     
  13. Thechosenone

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    Flatline is physiological. You don't simply eliminate it, what your talking about I assume is eliminating dead dick that comes with flatline
    The flatline is a period of rest when you go into recovery mode, don't fight it its a sign that you're healing up man...
    Fighting it only defers you onto a different path, let it do its thing be awitness to it
     
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  14. nfprogress

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    In normal English flat-lining typically means someone has died and their heart is no longer pumping (hospital machine shows flat line and no heart beat).

    In nofap, flat line means (by glossary):

    Nofap uses a commonly understood idea of lacking heart beat and applies it to a period of time when you don't have sex drive in a reboot.
     
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  15. fapequalsdeath

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    I took that herb and it made me relapse even more...
     
  16. n2kv

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    I think the safest rule during a reboot is: "Don't poke the bear !", flatlining or no flatlining...
     
  17. fapequalsdeath

    fapequalsdeath Fapstronaut

    Eh, I was doing it to test out the controversial "testosterone bump" so i would have more gains in the gym. Didn't see much difference although i'd say say my relapses are more due to my weak willpower than the herb.
     
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  18. fapequalsdeath

    fapequalsdeath Fapstronaut

    Too brutal. I prefer solo stuff which don't damage you, beacuse if I fail I'll be the only one to blame :)
     
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