Has anyone cured PE?

Hello! How are you! I have a very similar problem... I'll tell you my situation.
I also have PE and the same thing happens to me of lasting very little. Most of the time I don't get to penetration.
In my case I know that the PE was inherited, my father and my brothers also suffered. There is a vital issue when one has PE and that ends up being the root of the issue, which is the mind.

I had (and sometimes I have) very strong self-esteem problems due to having PE, I have even avoided meetings with women because I was afraid of being mocked and having a humiliating moment... On the other hand, I have a serious problem with PMO like everyone else those of us who are here For a long time of my life (from the age of 13 and today at 26) I did PMO, to the point that it became a habit that when I wanted to quit, I couldn't like everyone else... To the point that at 18 or 19 Approximately years ago, I started consuming TS P because the conventional P no longer produced anything for me...

On the other hand, my self-esteem problem with PE made me enter a vicious circle. I had no relationships, I fell into the P and MO and thus further aggravated my dependence on this stimulus...

The latter I managed to cut in recent months. I was more or less 60 days without PMO and more than 90 days without PM. Unfortunately there were things that I didn't know about my addiction and in the last month I began to have relapses again, putting my problem behind me, but anyway, here I am fighting again. After about day 60 of recovery, I knew I had to get rid of the fear of having S because I needed to somehow break that cycle. Back then I was talking to a girl, so the opportunity was given and I was encouraged to do it, I went to have S no matter what. Obviously I had PE, but guess what...she didn't give a shit about me. So after my O, we kept playing and after a while my friend got hard again and we had an amazing time. From then on it was having meetings every weekend where it always happened to me and despite that we had a great time. Then I realized that my problem was in my head and that it is not only the Yes that matters, believe me that women are very understandable in this sense.

Now, on the other hand, when we PMO and have these types of problems, we condition our heads to have a very fast O, added to the fact that our dopamine is through the roof, which makes us ejaculate much faster. It has even happened to me to have O without touching my friend...

The PE does have a solution, and it is with the practice of the M, but this is where a big problem arises... Those of us who are addicted to PMO have numb stimuli and the M alone does not produce anything for us. On the other hand, we have a very strong link between doing M and consuming P, so if we are in a reset period and we want to do M just to start solving our PE problem, our head will probably reconnect with very potential fantasies, and we the more likely it is that we end up relapsing (I say this from personal experience).

So the thing is this: first, if you want to start fixing your PE, you have to let go of your PMO problem. What you have to do? reboot, you have to get P's relationship with M out of your mind to be able to stimulate yourself with M alone over time (this is a point that I have not yet reached due to relapses). The time this can take will depend on how much you are tied to your addiction. So do not trust that after 90 days you will be recovered, that will depend on each one. I also believed that after 90 days I had recovered and yet I continued to have fantasies about my P fetish and it led me to relapse. And it also happened to me in other streaks of fewer days (30 or 40 days for example).

On the other hand, if your problem is in your confidence, you have to work to lose your fear of facing situations with a girl, don't lose your fear of relating, after all, I repeat, it is not the most important thing. The search for your pleasure will occur over time, but first the important thing, get out of the addiction.

So based on my personal experience my advice is that, I hope it works for you, greetings!

 

something I forgot to mention, I know people who had problems with PE and they managed to solve it, one of them is my brother and I know two friends who could have been better too. But none of them was involved in this PMO hell, so don't worry if it can be improved, remember that everything is in the mind.

 

I haven't had this issue. However, some people have found that taking gelatin or hydrolyzed collagen reduced their premature ejaculation (if you've never tried this supplement, hydrolyzed collagen is easier to use because it can immediately dissolve in your coffee/tea/etc.). There are some companies that sell this: Great Lakes, Vital Proteins, Organika, are the ones I know.

I don't know why it works exactly, might be something to do with the amino acids involved. For example, as a contrasting situation, women who had trouble orgasming (basically the opposite of premature ejaculation) had been given the amino acid histidine.

Gelatin/hydrolyzed collagen has a different amino acid composition compared to the usual muscle meats people eat. One of the amino acids prominent in it is glycine. Glycine is an inhibitory neurotransmitter, so it is more of a calming substance (https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/22513-neurotransmitters). Maybe that calming effect does something to reduce the over-excitation that causes the premature ejaculation.

Anyway it's basically a protein powder you can use. If it doesn't work or you don't care for it then you can stop it. I don't believe there are any long term effects.

 

You're welcome. It's basically just a protein powder so it's unlikely to have any side effects. I don't know if there is a comparable plant based collagen. I did see some products advertising as such on Amazon, so maybe there are some similar approaches. I think the key thing would be to check if it contains the amino acid Glycine.

I also came across this quote, which may provide some alternative approaches:
"Dr. Pfeiffer noted that males who had excessive L-Histidine levels had the problem of premature ejaculation. He gave these men supplementation of 500 mg. of L-Methionine along with 500 mg. of magnesium and 50mg. of vitamin B6. This helped normalize the levels of histidine, and alleviated the problem of premature ejaculation. Those taking L-Methionine should also take a B complex with folic acid to help prevent excessive homocysteine levels. (Take 2 Montiff B Complete daily - 1 in the morning and 1 in the evening to get sufficient folic acid and B 6.)."

If you see the above quote, one of the supplements mentioned is "L-Methionine". That is one of the amino acids in the gelatin/collagen which I mentioned. So that may also explain why some people had benefits in treating PE. However, I have heard that directly supplementing the singular amino acids is not a good idea. Better to get it in the gelatin where it comes with all the accompanying amino acids, or to get it via food sources.

• Animal sources include tuna, salmon, shrimp, beef, and lamb. For every 100g of tuna you will find 122% of your recommended daily intake of methionine.
• Plant-based sources include brazil nuts, soybeans, tofu, beans, lentils, wheat germ, and spirulina.
• https://www.foodunfolded.com/article/9-essential-amino-acids-food-sources-to-find-them

Also, 500mg of magnesium, if that's a daily dose, is a bit high I think. I sometimes take 400mg of magnesium oxide 2-3 times a week.

Vitamin B6 is OK, but just watch out for signs of excess if you take it long term: https://www.tga.gov.au/news/safety-alerts/vitamin-b6-pyridoxine

Finally, I also heard there were some pelvic floor exercises that can help with premature ejaculation. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4003840/
"At the end of the treatment, 33 (82.5%) of the 40 patients gained control of their ejaculatory reflex"

Maybe there are some urologists in your area who can explain the exercises to you, or maybe there are some videos on Youtube for it.

Good luck! I believe you can overcome the issue. It may take some trial and error as everyone's body and histories are different.

 

Well regarding this I have a few things to say too. Without having much clinical knowledge on the subject, I once went to have an appointment with a urologist and he had given me some pills that were to improve the performance of premature ejaculation. These were actually nothing more than drugs that were used to treat depression, but one of the side effects was delaying the ejaculatory effect but I don't remember why (this was about 4 or 5 years ago). I never took them, I never dared to, because I felt that it wasn't really a problem to be treated with pills.

What I read there is that it can give results to do some treatment with proteins and other supplements. I basically didn't know about this, yes, there was a time when I took magnesium for other things and I didn't feel any effect on PE, but anyway, I didn't take the other supplements mentioned there either, it was just magnesium.

And regarding the pelvic floor exercises, I have something to comment that I didn't say before. Due to the issue of my PE, I went to do some coaching with a sexologist. This is a friend of my dad and knew about his PE problems, and even my dad told me that this man also had PE. This sexologist told me that he was able to solve the PE by doing Kegel exercises (involving the pelvic floor), but not only do that, he also does M as he had told you before. What you do with Kegel exercises is to strengthen the pubococcygeus muscle, then, when you do M and the sensation of O comes, you stop, and force yourself as when you want to stop urine. In this way, by doing it repetitively, you begin to delay ejaculation and avoid the O. With practice, over time, you begin to improve your reflexes, since during the S you can stop and do this contraction of this muscle several times and thus go delaying time.

But as it says there, what you do with pelvic floor training is to train this muscle, then with the practice of the M and doing this method of stopping and starting again, we are training our brains, improving our ejaculatory reflex. But what I want to make clear is that it is not enough just to do Kegel exercises.

This mentioned method is a natural way to solve the PE, but as I mentioned before, if you do not improve your situation with the PMO, and you cannot stop doing M without P, you will never be able to start on this path, because each time you want to practice it, you probably have a relapse. Well, that's what happened to me, I don't know about other cases, but it's my own experience.

 

literally every long time addict faces PE and PIED and everyone who went on nofap journey for long overcame it. Nofap can do wonders provided you are patient and consistent

 

I generally agree.

I think a chronic pharmaceutical route is not the way to go. Those also bring on additional side effects that aren't necessary and can cause dependency (e.g., people can never stop taking them). For example, those drugs the urologist gave you, which were basically anti-depressants.

My suggestions were more along the lines of nutrition. It can be in the form of some supplements such as vitamin B6 or the gelatin. In those cases, it is more like correcting a potential deficiency in the body. There is no need for chronic use/dependency. Also, the trial period is quite short. Either you see an improvement in a few weeks or not. And if you stop using those vitamins/minerals, there is no dependency.

Alternatively, you can also get the same nutrition via food -- that is a big difference compared to drugs. For example, if people wanted the gelatin/collagen, they can eat gelatinous meats, such as Oxtails (common stew in places like Jamaica: https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1013460-jamaican-oxtail-stew). Vitamin B6 is high in beef liver. Magnesium can be found in coconut water, milk, dark chocolate (another study which showed that men with premature ejaculation had lower levels of magnesium: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01485010121440?journalCode=iaan19 )

Also thanks for sharing your story about the pelvic floor exercises. Someone using it definitely needs to break the habit of PMO beforehand, otherwise as you say, it can just lead to relapses.

 

I took a low dose anti depressant about 6 years or so ago for it. And it does help quite a bit. Premature ejaculation is mostly an emotional probablem.
I normally need a few drinks before sex to level me out.
If someone has a physical problem then I believe the Kegels will work but if emmotional, not really

 

Also good sleep is important too

We so used to play mobile phone and its consume our sleep time, make us tired and slow the blood

 

Hmm I tend to get a decent amount of sleep. I remember a few times were I couldn't get to sleep and oddly enough I was super horny throughout the day

 

If your physical health is in check (don't lie to yourself if it is not) - cardiovascular and weight/bodyfat then I'd look into mindfulness, breathing and control of your pelvic floor, I realised that when I blow quick it's because I contract my pelvic floor, I realised I did it because 1- it makes me closer to orgasm thus making it more enjoyable to edge and 2- it helps me keeping erections since I got PE due to the addiction. I have it as a reflex when getting sexually stimulated and the key is to get rid of that and learn to completely relax your pelvic floor, this is the key for a lot of people in my opinion, just awareness and control of your breathing and muscles. Just relax your mind, don't get over excited, it's not a race try to learn to enjoy the touch, the intimacy and the sensations throughout your body rather than the feeling of being close to ejaculating

 

I wanna add, it may be an unpopular opinion but people go the "medical route" way to quickly in my opinion, like I said I don't think PE is impossible to fix and is just some kind of medical issue, in my opinion it often happens from lack of body and mind awareness and self control (for a healthy individual at least - with proper diet/sleep and physical fitness level)

I would say if health is no good then look to improve it first, then work on your addiction to cure ED if you have any and then learn to relax body/mind as you work to rewiring yourself, reverse kegels can help if the pelvic floor thing is right, regular kegels will help with erection strength but may trigger more PE if you don't do reverse kegels and learn to relax it

 

Correct!!! Everyone should be patient when it comes to nofap. Give up P&M for 2 years, before trying other options if it's not life threating