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porn industry preys on sexual minorities?

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by loneloan, May 12, 2023.

  1. loneloan

    loneloan Fapstronaut

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    Do you think that as opposed to the mainstream (ie;big media) narrative that porn-work "empowers" minorities, it actually exploits them and commodifies them?
    Does this impact the health and substance abuse, suicidality etc, of the audience belonging to this groups?
     
  2. Sean Edie

    Sean Edie Fapstronaut

    I've been thinking about that for a while now.
    Straight guys getting addicted to gay porn just makes guys want to hook up rather than have a relationship with them and that just pushes the stereotype that gay guys are all about pleasure and misses all the authentic gay guys that stay together.
    It's the same kind of idea for trans people where they're sexualised
     
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  3. JF2002SD

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    No, I don't think so at all.

    Are there any studies by bonafide groups showing any impact on health, etc?

    If you have any evidence of the damage being done, wouldn't that damage be equal for a str8 adult industry actor?
     
  4. wreckage9

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    it empowers you if you want to be sexually free But it is a business and sex sells
     
  5. israeljuice

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    It commodifies everyone. Sex/gender minorities are more likely to be socially isolated and alienated so the opportunity is larger there. Markets are being created everywhere under our current way of life.
     
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  6. ArchonBlue

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    I don't really have anything negative or positive to say about the porn industry, porn is like a lot of things (alcohol, weed, video games, gambling) that can be used or abused. We abuse it, which is why we end up here. If you look at studies of porn addiction, a lot of them conclude one of two things about porn addicts. Porn addicts are often either mentally ill or religious. So you feel compelled to watch porn and then feel shame about it because it goes against your moral beliefs or you have some kind of trauma/mental health issue where your brain isn't making enough feel good chemicals so you have to find it synthetically like PMO. Either way the problem isn't really the porn, we can blame porn but at the end of the day it's usually a problem we have and porn is just the maladaptive solution.
     
  7. Beachguy759

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    ArchonBlue is right about the cyclical effect of addiction. That is why addicts who give up one behavior or substance are susceptible to taking up another. But the OP was about the social effects of porn and raises questions about how and when minoritized populations are commodified and the effects. That one is difficult, and people have been arguing that point about women in porn for a long time.
     
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  8. Meshuga

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    Are you free, though? If your sexuality is what defines you, and you are free to explore and exploit and be exploited to your physical limits, are you really free? Or are you restricted to your passion? You can’t be a son or a worker or a friend, you’re the gay son, the trans worker, the poly friend, everything you are and do colored by something that shouldn’t actually make a difference. I even feel it myself; I’m an addict, I’m ADD, the most important parts about me are labels and categories.

    I think porn doesn’t respect sexual minorities any more than it respects sexual majorities. It objectifies and exploits both women and men, how much more those with other labels? Lesbians, trans, “plus size” or “BBWs,” any kind of paraphilia, porn can claim it represents and celebrates them, but only in the same sense as the bearded lady and the little people in Barnum’s freak show. Porn puts people on display and humiliates them for consumer’s entertainment, full stop. Porn is the enemy of love and intimacy.
     
  9. onceaking

    onceaking Fapstronaut

    I've never heard of the term 'sexual minorities' before.
     
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  10. Akeakua

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    I am certain, porn-work exploits a TON of people. How many can keep their mind and body at peace with each other? I do not think that sex-workers look forward to their job every day. If a worker does not want to have sex one day and feel forced to do it because it is their job, it spurs on depression and feelings of helplessness and worthlessness. Sure, they smile for the camera because it's their job, but I don't think they're always smiling inside. And beyond their job, they are recognized by people outside I'm sure, creepy people who think it's their lucky day, who think the sex-workers are easy outside their job and pursue them. Long story short, any way you look at it porn is wrong. It is so destructive to the consumers and participators and the industry is full of abusive and manipulative hawks.
     
  11. loneloan

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    I have very crass speech IRL but I tone it down on forums. I was just being polite.
     
  12. Oh shit I’ve been doing self-indulgence all wrong this entire time?!
     
  13. cleaningupmyact

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    not sure what you mean by 'sexual minorities' but P industry promotes LOTS of racism and creates a fetish category out of absolutely everything and treats it as "normal."
    seriously before PMO addiction do you really think this many people were turned on by all the weird @ss shit online? Its fabricated and highly profitable and omg have I seen the most degrading names and ads for different races, young girls, etc. its evil, beyond evil.

    ftnd.org has great info and videos on industry survivors.

    anyone insane enough to think P industry is good for anything should watch the Jane Doe video here:

    (trigger warning for talking about abuse in the industry - nothing visual):
    https://fightthenewdrug.org/videos/#FTNDvideos
     
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  14. onceaking

    onceaking Fapstronaut

    But I'm not completely sure what you're on about. Are talking about actual minorities or a certain type of sexuality?
     
  15. israeljuice

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    great post
     
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  16. Porn is fundamentally a business, and like many businesses it is willing to exploit people for financial gain. Black, brown, white, man, woman, all these companies see is the green of the almighty dollar.
     
  17. loneloan

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    those are just criminals honestly (yes, having sex with an animal is rape, it damages their organs a lot)
     
  18. Meshuga

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    Well that’s where the confusion sets in. In mainstream liberal US, there’s a sense of virtue associated with being a minority. However, normativity and virtue have nothing to do with one another, at least in a philosophical sense. Touching minors is not normal. The people who do it are a minority. But it’s not normal because it hurts innocents, and we punish people for doing it.

    We know P causes confusion, but conventional wisdom says P merely exposes or draws out feelings that were already present. In this sense, we are the sexual minorities, attracted to porn but simultaneously disgusted with it. In bygone eras that would simply be called “ambivalent” or “conflicted,” maybe “perverse,” if you were more sympathetic to the idea that porn really is damaging, but now there’s probably a fancy made-up label for us.
     
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  19. IGY

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    “Minor Attracted People” are not criminals unless they act on their attraction.
     
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  20. Meshuga

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    True, but the original question is if porn empowers sexual minorities or simply commodifies them. Porn supposedly empowers sexual minorities by legitimizing their right to sexually express. In this context, most of us don’t want MAPs to sexually express because by definition that constitutes a violation of our value of consent. Unless, of course, we want to discuss whether pre-sexual, cognitively underdeveloped beings in an inherently imbalanced power dynamic are even capable of consenting to sexual activity.
     

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