Do not stop masturbate !

I quietly do not agree with you. The think which I want to emphasize is that if you just stop some addiction or some bad behaviour, some thoughts which are ruining your life ... it is not the solution. The problem is still there! You have only hide it to the cellar of your mind where the beast waits and grow stronger. Instead of that you have to realize it and actively transform the very essence of that thing so it no longer hount you.

As an examle I enclose part of the conversation with my friend:

I remember a technique from tantra which could be helpfull to you as it was helpfull to me. The technique relates to transformation. I will give you some metaphoric examples. Imagine a figure from play dough which scares you. Take the play dough and transform it into some figure which brings you joy. Or another example you have a knife which was used to kill somebody and you will never touch it. But then suddenly a dog attacks you and you have to defend yourself. You grab the same knife and this time it saves your life and you look on it in a different way now. If you see the point you transform the nature of the knife .

How can it help you with your desire to feet problem? You just simply takes the thought: "When I look to women feet it makes me horny and I have to masturbate" and transform it as if you play with the play dough to: "When I look to women feet it reminds me that I have to smile and be happy ". Or you can create another sentence. See it is easy. I can explain it more if you want.

The second thing relates to you thought: "I have no girl and therefore I am looser or I am worse than others". This is not true. It is lie which creates your mind. You have to understand that you do not have to believe every thought you think. Idetification with thoughts is your ego = your mind = your conceptualized identity = your mental image about yourself, but not the real you. You in real is the space in which the thoughts flow . You are the clear sky and thoughts are the clouds. I like to recommend you to watch some of Eckhart Tolle videos on YouTube.

Do you see the point ? So if I likened the masturbate to drinking of alcohol. I think that anybody can get rid of his/her addiction to alcohol and still occasionally have a bit of alcohol without getting drunk and start to booze again. If he can´t do it the problem is in his mind. Or in the other words "you are the only person who can change yourself and the way you wish". We are still speaking about masturbation here. If we were addicted to some hard drugs I would hardly recommend anyone to occasionally take a drug!!!

 

Why do you think that?

 

:-D ... because of the reasons that I wrote above this statement. Read my last post again please. I have tried the transformation with many other things it and it works for me and for my friends also. You do not have to believe it but if you dont try it you dont have any other opinion than never masturbate again. But then it is like if you stop running because it damages the joints. You can do that but you are limiting yourself. You can stop drinking alcohol and coffe, sweet drings, eating sweet, overheated fats, fastfood, salty meal, saturated fat, stop smoking, driving fast, going to vote because it dont change anything, saying rude words because it is indecent, speak with children about sex because it is tabu, don´t use any public transport because it destroys our planet, stay in your home it is safer then outside......................

 

DonB's question was regarding your former post tibron - the closing paragraph of which I have quoted ^ in this message. I do not think DonB's question was about masturbation, but specifically about your theory to do with alcohol addiction.

Alcoholism "is characterised by an increased tolerance to and physical dependence on alcohol, affecting an individual's ability to control consumption. These characteristics play a role decreasing an alcoholic's ability to stop drinking."

Prognosis "In contrast, however, the results of a long-term (60-year) follow-up of two groups of alcoholic men indicated that "return to controlled drinking rarely persisted for much more than a decade without relapse or evolution into abstinence." There was also "return-to-controlled drinking, as reported in short-term studies, is often a mirage."

Please forgive me @DonB if I misread the implication of your question to @tibron who advocates psychosomatics.

 

I understand you ... I just suggest why not should try to learn how to use more than 3% of our brain? Is this not a perfect opportunity? We can be glad that we are not addicted to hard drugs. So why not to use this life situation as an opportunity for growth? The whole life is about evolution. About trying things which seems impossible until we succeed. Am I not right :-(?

 

Yes now I agree with you. As was previously mentioned, this is anti-porn website and not anti-masturbation. As what the porn recovery is conserned we are on the same ship man . I am just trying to come with new point of view which could help to some of us. It doesn´t matter which way you choose. We all have same aim and that is stop ruining our life with porn.

But the one thing I still have to oppose is the "resist to P urges". Maybe I am too much affected by Systema which brings the concept of non-resisting to force and instead of transform it. Because it suppose to always encounter stronger opponent which obsessions are. But that is just my choice of life style and I don´t want to obtrude it to anybody although it probably looks like :-(. I just don´t believe that you can´t resist to an obsession or physical force forever without weakening in time or destroying youself. Imagine the situation when you will try to resist to punches to your belly. In my reality the obsessions are the punches. I am redirecting them, transforming in something other . But never trying to resist or even suppress them. It will be like run directly into the punch.

I think I have exhausted all my ideas . Thank you all for your oppinions and wish you all good success in what ever you do.

PS: You see Sam Knight do not agree with neither of us :-D. As they say how many people that many ideas :-D. Set sail my friends destiny awaits ...

 

No, @IGY that's about right.

I'm afraid that "only use 3% of our brain" stuff is nonsense too:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_percent_of_the_brain_myth

 

You are welcome .

 

My friend :-D in my opinion Sam Knight would be an awsome goulash cook. I have never seen such an proffesional "ein topf".

His whole concept is totaly nonsense :-( in the way how it is writen. From elementary school text books you can read that Chyle does not create Blood. Blood is created by Bone marrow and its purpose is to distribute nutrients and waste products throughout the body. You are right about that Food creates Chyle but then fat is created in liver and then stored in fat cells. Bone is not created by fat but it is created by bone cells ... and so on.

My dear Sam Knight and programer. I sometimes wonder about your frigid religion and level of knowledge :-( as you slapping higgledy-piggledy. Your opinions are not supported by scientific research nor by professional books. And by that I mean exact name of relevat research or relevant book, authors, date of release and page. Moreover your opinions can be easily disproved by textbooks from elementary school.

Anyway cells making sperm does not consumpt blood. The blood flows in vessels and by filtration is made lymph from which the cells absorb all substances necessary to life. The other thing is that by simple logic we can't say that 40 drops of blood equals 1 drop of semen because composition of blood differs during the day and is different for each person.

I agree that "Semen is the real vitality in man. It is the hidden treasure for man. Just imagine the power of semen, it has the ability to give another life and it is wasted." So I say do not waste it by simple having an orgasm without ejaculation. The wet dreams or your girlfriend will take care about the rest :-D.

BTW by having faith in god which one do you mean. My gods does not agree with you.

 

So,can it allows you to live a multipleorgasm without cumming?

 

Than you Sir for your opinion. I salute to you! Thank you, thank you and than you again .