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Quitting Porn is Good... but masturbating too, maybe not?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by rfh3489rf480fh, Mar 21, 2014.

  1. rfh3489rf480fh

    rfh3489rf480fh New Fapstronaut

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    Hello people,

    I am quite new to this way of communicating, but I too want to stop watching porn, because it costs me so much time, and the ''porn-thoughts'' keeps me lecherous throughout the day.

    I have been reading some topics on Reddit and the nofap/forum. What I am noticing is that people try to stop masturbating, but I wonder if that would be wise. The male body makes up semen and hormones that are rudimentary for our health. Maybe I am mistaken with this, I do not know exactly how the human body works, but I do know that 'sex' is necessary or at least having an ejaculation.

    I am bringing this up, because I really want to cheer people on with their goals and want to participate too. But when I feel or think that something is not wholly right, than I am not able to. So my biggest question is... is it wise to abstain from masturbation? Abstaining from porn definetly wise.
     
  2. uchicha15

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    The only healthy way to ejaculate is through sex with another person. It will make you happy and satisfied to great extent. However, if you masturbate, either to porn or to anything else, it will create other emotions in you and you will feel dissatisfied.

    Honestly, aren't you here because you feel uncomfortable after masturbation? If masturbation would be good, no one would even consider it to be a bad thing. In all the forums, people say that sex is amazing. That's a sign that it's also healthy and people feel relaxed.

    Concering the semen, the semen flow out through nocturnal emissions (wet dreams), so that's fine.

    Find a girl, marry her and have sexual intercourse. Believe me, after that you won't ever masturbate again.
     
  3. wulf

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    I disagree that sex is the only "healthy" way to ejaculate.

    Primates in the wild masterbate all the time. It's a programmed instinct. Why? Because the longer you go without ejaculating, the more mutated your sperm becomes. I'm not saying you should jerk off every day, but jerking off every once in a while is not only healthy, it's completely natural. If it wasn't, then it wouldn't be a behavior observed in other primate species.
     
  4. open

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    First of all I don't think sex will guaranty to you the right way to ejaculate. There is no such way.
    But if anything makes you miserable, you should consider stop doing that, even if you know that you're going to damage your body. It's a choice you make. And this choice is not ideal.
     
  5. wulf

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    This really is the best advice on this topic. If masterbating makes you miserable, then don't do it. If you want to masterbate and you know you'll feel shitty about it afterward, then try to distract yourself. If you want to masterbate and not doing so is interfering with your ability to concentrate on anything else, then have a wank and get it over with, then move on.

    It's really about being self-aware. Aware of what you want vs. what you think you want. Beign aware of what makes you happy, what makes your miserable. Figure out how your mind works and then work with that. Remember, your mind works for you and not the other way around. Anything else would be silly - like a dog being wagged by its tail.
     
  6. seth

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    Excellent point! A lot of people stop MO or PMO or both during this reboot, but then ask if they're allowed to MO after the reboot? The answer is here in this post. Do it if you won't feel bad about it. Distract yourself if you know you'll overwhelm yourself with guilt.

    Some great advice wulf!
     
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  7. Saserman

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    I was under the impression that it was only primates in captivity that masturbate, not those in the wild. But I have no sources.

    But the body already has a natural way of getting rid of excess sperm. This method is in the form nocturnal emissions or wet dreams, which will happen if you do not ejaculate for a while (although admittedly it hasn't happened to me yet, but I've been fapping for my whole life). This, in my opinion, makes masturbation unnecessary
     
  8. WinkWB

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    No you need to never masturbate again to do this right? I don't think so.

    But to reboot, you need to do it for a period of time. Aim for 90 days.

    Then re-evaluate using the criteria here:
    http://yourbrainonporn.com/how-do-i-know-when-im-back-to-normal

    I quit porn 114 days ago. Since I hit 90 days, I've masturbated a couple of times, with no hangover, no escalation, amd no porn.
     
  9. rfh3489rf480fh

    rfh3489rf480fh New Fapstronaut

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    The reason I opened this topic is; I read one time in a scientific paper that people who masturbated frequently had a lower chance of getting prostate cancer. When reading al these different reactions on the web, I decided to research my own question.


    I believe too that doing something that makes you feel guilty or anxious is ''bad'' for your own health, because it gives you stress. Certaintly with masturbation, which should be soothing and bringing you into some sort of rapture.

    It is funny though, how things - how innocent they may be - can become your demons.

    The only thing that I want to say is; if it works for you, than keep strong!
     
  10. You are more

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    I think the reason so many choose to not masturbate or edge during their reboot period is quite simple: When we watch porn our brains soak up those images for later use when we may not have access to a computer or simply just want to masturbate to get rid of the urges. If you are trying to get over compulsive porn watching, then I believe it is almost essential to give up masturbation for a time as well. When you masturbate within your reboot period you will most likely be replaying a porno in your mind, and that has the same exact effect on your brain as if you were staring at a screen watching porn and masturbating.

    NoFap, and YBOP, and other such websites dedicated to freedom from porn and other sexual vices, are here to help you gain control of your mind again and to have a normal, healthy sex life. Right now, when your brain tells you it has a desire for sex, you are almost powerless to stop that desire because you have given in to it so many times before. If you cannot resist the temptation to masturbate, you will most certainly relapse into watching pornography again because, really, it is only a very small step away.

    To address your question of the 'need' to ejaculate: You will automatically after a period of time. It's called a wet dream, and it's your bodies natural way of getting rid of excess semen.

    Here's a quote from the Your Brain On Porn website about rebooting and allowing masturbation:
    "To our surprise, very few men successfully recover from porn-induced ED while continuing a regular masturbation/orgasm schedule. The few who continue to have orgasms, and successfully recover from porn-induced ED, are men who didn't start early on Internet porn. Most are in their late 30's to early 50's, and have a significant other. This doesn't mean that you will never recover if you continue to masturbate, orgasm or relapse into porn. In fact, most guys sometimes "relapse" back into porn use during their reboot."

    Good luck, and stay strong!
     
  11. HiFlyerPeter

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    In my experience, the problem is that porn and masturbation become inextricably linked. Even if I was not masturbating with porn, I was still thinking about it. This means that in order to quit one, you must quit the other at least temporarily. I'm currently 4 days into my 90 day "reboot" process, which means (for me) no porn or masturbation. My goal is to be able to swear off porn permanently, but I'd like to be able to occasionally masturbate again once the reboot is complete. I'll let you know on day 91!
     
  12. Arthur Murray

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    Awesome Advice I was thinking about this topic for sometime now... I've not watch or seen P in about 3 months but in those months I've Masterbated twice I don't feel guilty but I also believe I have PIED I can really feel myself beginning to heal and don't want any set backs but I feel no guilt the times I've self pleasured and will continue to stay away from P and hopefully I can heal from PIED one day at a time Thanks for the advice I went 25 days before my last relapse so now I'm going for 40 days without MO
     

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