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Recently married seeks support for husbands pmo

Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by DireMerl, Oct 6, 2015.

  1. Mj1064

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    Hi - Good luck with you and your husband. Mine is on here too (Silverback). We have only been married 3 years but I'm yet to have a good year. However........I think this may just be start of one :) He finally admitted to himself - and me - that his constant use of particular sites, where you can chat to the models and pay tips, is an addiction. He has now started his journal and he reads mine too. We can talk about it without him getting 'arsy' with me and the atmosphere is so much better in just a few days. He gave me my Christmas card this morning and I cried!! The words and what he wrote were just so lovely and, for the first time, I believe he means it. Before, I used to think, yes the words are lovely but you still hurt me.
    Hopefully, you two will be able to talk to each other openly - which helps a great deal - and he can turn this thing around.
     
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  2. DireMerl

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    Hello there chaps. (Little salad fingers reference for you guys there. If you've never seen it. Don't. It's disturbing, but funny) anyway. Hit a bit of a lull. I know I said I'd be taking a break. I guess I just enjoy coming on here too much to catch up with you lovely people.

    Anyway, as I was saying. Hit a bit of lull in terms of progress. Having a few trust issues, nothing major. I guess it's because there isn't much joy on the de front and that makes me anxious. I guess I thought that would miraculously disappear once pmo was out of the picture. Maybe that isn't the case. Maybe there is more to it than that. I don't know. It's upsetting because I want him to enjoy sex as much as I do. And I know it upsets him that he can't o. This is the reason we started this journey in the first place. Don't get me wrong, I'm really happy with our progress in terms of communicating more and being closer to each other. The de is still an issue however. I wonder if anyone can give me advice on this? What have other people found who suffer from de?

    Anyways, I was gifted a game of thrones colouring book for my birthday so my art is calling. Hope you're all having a proper sex weekend. Real intimacy is the way forward xxx
     
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  3. DireMerl

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    So, it's been a while. Things aren't good I'm afraid. Turns out the husband barely quit pmo at all. He quit for a little while but went back to it fairly quickly. He's been lying about it the whole time. Again. He's basically saying the reason we don't have much sex, and he has de, is that he doesn't fancy me because of my weight. Having talked about it for hours I really get the impression that he doesn't see the big deal and has no plans to quit any time soon.

    Needless to say things are really rough around here at the moment. I'm not sure where we go from here really. I have agreed that I need to lose weight, which I know sounds like I'm weak and stupid. But I actually hate my size anyway and it's been making me miserable for years. Even to the point where I don't like going out and socialising because I don't want people to see me. Not sure what else to say really. I'm a bit shell shocked to be honest. Maybe porn isn't the problem. Maybe it is. But it doesn't really matter what I think. I don't seem to be able to get him to understand that I think it is an issue. And if he doesn't want to see it then I can't force him. I'm tired. My mind seems to have gone fuzzy. I know there isn't much in the way of advice anyone can give me. I just wanted to get some thoughts out. Hope everyone else is doing well xx
     
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  4. Don Gately

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    So sorry to hear that. If you decide to lose weight, have in mind that the goal is to feel healthy, and looking healthy will follow. You're in a particularly tough situation because the person you naturally go to for approval is in no condition whatsoever to say anything helpful about your body. I'm just throwing around my opinions all over the place tonight, but if I were you I would ignore what he says about women and their charms because I really believe his brain is (not permanently, but definitely) wired incorrectly. Get yourself as healthy and happy as you can, despite the circumstances.
     
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  5. TheWife

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    No, no, no. So much nope. For him to say you are the problem is denial and gaslighting. It is not okay. It is very common with addiction, I've been through it, and so have many others. It puts the blame on you and destroys you emotionally. It makes you feel like you are crazy. You're not. Please do not believe that your appearance is the issue. You are so much more than that.

    He needs to accept he has a problem. Until this happens, then things can't move forward. It is awful and heartbreaking. You can't do this for him. He needs to be the one to see he has a problem and to address it.

    All you can do is control your reactions to him. Hold your boundaries and provide consequences. Tough love. It's shitty.

    If you feel bad about yourself, then work on yourself. But, do not think that becoming a size 6 will fix your marriage. Build your self esteem. Work on making yourself stronger and more confident. Go out and socialise, although I know you may not feel like it. Don't isolate yourself. Do you really think that people are so shallow as to judge you on your size, and if they do, you don't want to know those people anyway. You have so much to offer. I would love to meet you in real life and to have a drink with you. I think you'd be a riot! I have never met you in real life but I think you are a beautiful, intelligent, strong and wonderfully funny woman.

    Take care of you now. Your needs come first. Find a close friend or a therapist to speak with. You need some support. Just remember that we are also here to listen whenever you need us.

    Big hugs x
     
  6. TheFiancée

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    Dear DireMerl,

    I am shocked to read these lines! First of all, your weight has NOTHING to do with his addiction! It is NOT YOUR FAULT! How dare he say that! I am furious!
    It is his issue, his addiction, his brain that is causing him to behave like an utter shit (I am sorry, but he is), not your body. Even if you looked like a super model, his addiction would still be there.

    I am so sorry. I can't write much more right now, have to run.
    My thoughts are with you! You are fabulous and worth a billion! Don't let him make you feel anything less!
    Be strong

    xx
     
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  7. Hi @DireMerl

    As @TheWife said, nope. Heaping piles of NOPE. Your weight has absolutely nothing to do with his addiction! I'm so sorry that he said those things and that he's in complete denial about the situation. If you lost weight, he'd still feel the same way. There's not much more that I can say that hasn't been already said by both @TheWife and @TheFiancée....I wish I could offer my support in real life. I'd buy you a beer/cocktail/your drink of choice. In the meantime, I (and so many others) am here for you and am thinking of you. Hugs :)
     
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  8. This. Sooooo much this.
     
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  9. DireMerl

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    Thanks for your replies folks. It's lush to know I have so much support. We've talked and talked and talked and he says he's stopping the porn. At the moment I'm taking this with a pinch of salt as I've heard it all before. We've agreed to try and work in our marriage though so we'll just have to see where that goes.

    I'm not really sure what steps he's planning on taking to stop this time. Maybe we need to talk about a blocker or something. He's at least acknowledged that it is his responibility to do this. We shall see I suppose. That's all I can do really. It's a shame because he is an amazing person. I just feel like he's doing stupid shit and not really willing to take responsibility or recognise that he's being selfish. I'll be taking the advice of all you lovely people and working on my own goals and protecting myself. Working on job getting and as much as I know his views on my body are messed up, I am planning on getting back into shape. At least that will give me more confidence so I don't feel like everyone is looking at me. So that is my plan of action for now. I might see if I can arrange some counselling for myself as well. Because my self image has pretty much always been in the toilet. And I want to be less afraid of failure. It limits everything I do until I've become this shell of a person. I need to work on that.

    Thanks again to everyone who takes the time to help others on here. It's more valuable than you know, even if it's just someone being there. Xx
     
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  10. Mj1064

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    I really hope you two can work this out. It saps the life out of your self image - it sucks!

    I've been looking at Accountable2you. It looks really good. I don't think I actually need it for @Silverback anymore but more for my own peace of mind. I need to re-train my brain too I think! I have to learn to believe that nothing is going on.

    Also, we are both on the podgier side of life than we would both like.... Lol so we have started going out together in the evenings for a 'quick March' walk . Maybe I'll even shock myself one day and get the exercise bike out - it sits nicely by the window about 6ft from me - I hate to disturb it. Lol

    Seriously though, doing stuff with your weight and health will make you feel so much better in yourself. It can only be a good thing. Good luck with all aspects of your recovery and survival.
     
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  11. DireMerl

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    @TheWife mentioned that. I'm not sure if it works with incognito mode on the phone? In planning on going back to swimming because I enjoy it. I took the dog for a super long walk today and I'm cutting out crappy foods. Its partly to do with being healthy as well. I'm tired all the time, I'm depressed and suffering from insomnia, and I get out of breath just walking up the stairs. Its not good. I'm only 29.
     
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  12. Mj1064

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    I know A2Y works with incognito on the laptop, which is where I would need it. However, we have his 3 'favourite' sites blocked through the router so I know he can't get on them using any device (whilst at home). There is just this little tiny percentage of my brain that can't help thinking "what if". I think he has managed to stop easier than I have managed to trust again!

    We're trying to cut out crappy foods.......think the Christmas crap has just about gone now lol....... I just hate cooking though so it's a real effort! We really must get exercising :eek: I've downloaded the '7 minute workout' onto my phone - I've looked at it..............and that's as far as I've got!! I don't think I could do each exercise 'properly' to start with but even if I attempt my own version it's better than nothing I guess and each thing is only for 30 seconds.

    Maybe the healthier you get, the better you'll feel and that might also help with the depression and insomnia :cool:
     

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  13. DireMerl

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    Yeah. I might bring it up with him tomorrow. We're happily watching a film at the moment. I did think about blocking the router but he set up the account years ago for reasons I don't really want to go into for his privacy. But needless to say we would need the account details and we don't have them so that would be tricky. Xx
     
  14. True-Self

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    l really hesitated replying to this and maybe after reading what my thoughts are you may wish that I had kept my mouth shut but I can't help myself. I am basing my observations both on what you wrote in your journal and your husbands postings. This also goes without saying but I am only a random internet stranger and obviously don't have the full picture of your relationship. Nevertheless here are some thoughts I have.
    1. Concerning your husbands assertion that his DE and the lack of sex in your marriage is related to your weight. Your husband knows that the two are not related as he states so himself in his own journal (the true reasons being that he has conditioned himself to only respond to self pleasure). So if he knows the real reason, why does he continue to mention your weight? To me this comes across as just being mean (especially since he seems to have brought this up multiple times) to deflect from his own failings.
    2. Per your husbands journal he has been dealing with DE and porn addiction during your entire time together. Why is it taking him so long to make changes especially given that he knew something was wrong since the first time you were intimate together? You've been together six years. I think at some point you need to ask yourself if you are willing to accept this situation indefinitely...
    3. IMHO at this point I think it is very fair to give your husband a recovery time table that he needs to keep to. He needs to do the work. I'm sure that he can recover and you guys can be even happier together. However, he has to take his journey more seriously than he has been, or the next thing you know another six years will have passed and nothing will have changed.
     
  15. @DireMerl you have me shuddering at the memory of salad fingers. I had completely blocked that out and now it's back! *cringe*

    Seriously, though, much love and support to you and your man. I wish you both happiness and joy and success in his recovery.
     
  16. DireMerl

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    I agree with you. I do think he's trying to deflect. And I know there's only so much I can take. I'm willing to see how things progress but it will eventually get to a point where I can't any more.
     
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  17. Charlene

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    Addiction is a horrid disease. It eats at every part of your life. My DH has gone through alcohol and drug addiction, now its the porn and has been for awhile.
    We went five years without a good sex life. He has been porn free for two weeks now, but i wait on pins and needles waiting for a relapse. It typically takes the addict hitting a bottom to realize something needs to change and the addiction needs to end. Its possible your husband has not hit his end. You cant make him hit it any more than he can make you loose weight. This does not mean he dosent love you. He is addicted and sometimes those addictions suppercede what he knows is right or wrong. Hang in there we are here for you.
     
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  18. DireMerl

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    I'm having a rough day today. Thanks to everyone for your support and kind advice. In addition to everything else that happened friday, the husband was messaging a girl on Facebook. This is what started the whole fight. I didn't post about it because I'm ashamed and embarassed. I'm struggling now to stop thinking about her. About them together. Trying to figure out what he sees in her over me. He says it was nothing and harmless banter but it doesn't change how betrayed I feel.

    He swore never to speak to her again. Even to see her. But she is part of his frienship group so I can't ask him to stop seeing them. I honestly don't think he would ever take things further. I really don't see him cheating on me or anything. But it hurts. Xx
     
  19. Charlene

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    If it is hurting you, he should defreind her. MHO
     
  20. Mj1064

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    I know exactly how that makes you feel but I don't know why you should feel ashamed or embarrassed! You've done nothing wrong. It's the living on the edge, not quite knowing if things are actually going as well as you think they are and feeling absolutely shit, not to mention stupid, when you find out it's not. Hopefully, get the blocker thing sorted or at the very least, the Facebook situation and go from there.
     

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