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It's been 70 days now and still not seeing improvement.

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Huntilt, Feb 20, 2016.

  1. Huntilt

    Huntilt Fapstronaut

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    Hi fellows,

    so it's been 70 days now without PMO, without edging, still fantaising. I suffer of deep PIED since always, and watch since 13 porn and extreme porn (i'm 28)

    Yesterday night, i was having a drink with a "friend" and we ended by kissing and going at her.. I knew i was going to fucked up down there since i always been unable to have an erection with my others girlfriends so i said to her when we were making out "you know it's not gonna be really hard as i'm a bit rust, it's been quite a long i haven't do it" and she answer like "don't worry, i know you are very stress and not really happy at the moment and i know you guys can overthink with your brain, so no panic" She really know me, we speak every day, she is a good friends but i was always attracted by her so i was happy to see her so understandable and mature. But despite that. Despite i know the pressure was down. after 70 days without PMO, without had any other relation, my PIED is still there, i have any libido, feel any excitation despite i like a lot that girl and she is so attractive and nice. When i kiss her nothing happen, we were naked and i had anything, my penis has never been so tiny . I felt ashamed, embarassed. Even when i was porn addict, i was able to get erection when making out... what happened? I'm so worried i would never be able to get my erection back . 70 days is a long time and i guess i'm supposed to see improvement since the day 1....
    After that i came home this afternoon, fall asleep for a nap and had a wet dream of extrem porn i used to watch and i was involved. and these picture of extrem porn was very clear like if i watched it every day...

    Any advice, or thought please :(
     
  2. PaFappa the Rapper

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    Sounds like you simply have some more to go. Hang in there.
     
  3. JoeinUSA

    JoeinUSA Fapstronaut

    I've only ever heard on here a minimum of 90 days hardmode (never fewer than 90 days), and sometimes more days even, as all guys aren't the same.
     
  4. BMDirty

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    Yeah, I'm sorry to hear this man. PIED has ran rampant in my life as well, and I started my journey to end it about 2 - 3 years ago. I went about 30 days, and then was a super hero for a girl I felt extremely emotionally for.

    There are two things that I find help it the most.

    First, having a clear head. Not worrying about my dick downstairs. It's self fulfilling doubt, the second I worry it's not going to work, it stops working.

    Second, I have a craving for trust. If I don't feel like she wants me in some way, I struggle. I can get up and stay up as long as I'm not worried I'm going to disappoint her, or hurt her in anyway. Life doesn't always enter my little dude when I touch a woman, but after she starts to tell me how wonderful I am.

    But even with both of those, i sometimes still don't work all the time.

    The PIED stopped for a bit after the year mark of struggling, 30 days of white knuckling, then a very passion no worries love session with a girl.

    The PIED came back slowly after small lapses, then was full force after a severe lapse.

    But I am recovering a lot more quickly this time around, things are working well enough after 4 days, and working better each day.

    Just give it time, and relax. Find someone you can trust and start a relationship with. I never could get it up for any one night stands, or for casual sex with friends. Now I don't care to find out if I can.
     
  5. Kennen

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    There's a number of solution written in the internet about erections...

    Have you tried kegel excercise?
    My erection was stronger when I've done that...
     
  6. Huntilt

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    I haven't actually and I saw a tutorial about that . Is it the same muscle that the one to stop peeing? so i have to hold it 5 secondes, 15 times 3 times a day ?
    Also have you heard about natural product as Male Extra? All the review of official website and not phishing recommand it as it's not chimical but natural aphrodisica (ginseng, maca, grenade etc...)
     
  7. BMDirty

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    So... I don't know if you want to try unnatural. Some of those gas station penis pills worked. I found that typically, if you spend $10 on one pill, they worked just like the ones doctor's supply( slight headache included ).

    I can't fully endorse it for several reasons like constant recalling of said products, the fact there is an illegal substance in them, that you would be using a drug to fix a mental issue, you may have trouble remembering you really don't need them, and using them too much to the point your body may rely on them but...

    I personally wouldn't be afraid to use a drug to help breakdown the metaphorical anxiety wall that blocks the boners from the real ladies who need them from you.

    I always found the natural vitamins and minerals never really work how you want them too, and they way you told the story in your first post makes me feel like it's a lot of just breaking down mental walls.
     
  8. Kennen

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    Yes, you have to hold it in 5 sec then release it. It depends on what repetitions and sets you want. Just raise the difficulty every week or your choice.

    I haven't.
     
  9. LionDick

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    Hey dude,

    I know how you feel, I'm in the struggle myself but I always feel a big difference when I stop jerking off for 1-2 weeks so I'm sure it will be much better when I hit 3 months, not to mention 6 or a year. I read about this and some people require 1 month to heal, some 3 and some a year. The important thing is keep a clear mind and realize that you have an issue and the ONLY way to fix it is by completely removing the thought of masturbating from your life.

    You are doing the right thing and even though I'm sorry to hear it didn't go well with your girlfriend the other night, keep at it and you will see results eventually.

    Also, a "quick fix" trick if I may say is getting some natural, herbal pills that contain several ingredients that help with erections (I've tried them myself).

    http://www.besthealth.co.uk/gold-max.php

    You can buy a sample pack first to see if it works too so you won't spend a lot of money on it, best of luck dude and don't give up :)
     
  10. LionDick

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    Oh, and these pills have no side effects, they are not like via-gra, just follow the instruction and don't exceed the dosage and you will be fine :)
     
  11. Phibz

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    It could be a medical problem. But I doubt it since you can be aroused from porn. This is a mind problem. Fix the inside and the rest will fall into place. It may take you a long time. But until you can understand that this is the result of a sick mind, don't expect to see a big change. Be patient.
     
  12. Huntilt

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    Yes i know, I have more than 15 years of porn and sick porn but i would never expecting to that result. I wish i could throwback to that time and slap myself.. I also had the symptom of the death grip my masturbation was 5 mn very quick, not even turn on, with 15 tabs of sick video open and go to bed... pathetic . and no i ruin all my chance with girls i like because of that sick pleasure...
     
  13. BMDirty

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    Don't be too hard on yourself. I was looking at some pretty wierd shit, and I was going 3 or 4 times a day for years, in a similar way that you described.

    You aren't a monster, and you are not a lost cause. It took years to get over for me.

    You have a wall to climb just like others who have our problem. No one makes it to the top on the first try, and you won't make it if you give up.

    I am going into my 3rd year of fighting this, I didn't have this community until recently, but use it.

    Tell us your struggles daily. These people will boost you up, and god knows I could have used that when I was at my lowest.

    Fuck man, I'll follow you. I don't want anyone going through what I did alone, and I'm sure there are others that feel the same on here.
     
  14. numpty

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    2 problems here

    1) your mind is playing games telling you that this is a waste of time. Am on day 91 and in the final hurdle i nearly collapsed;

    Day 70ish had withdrawal symptom
    Day 72 wet dream then followed a 6 hour edge
    Day 81 i thought my erections haven't returned nofap is a waste

    Day 87/88 my erections did return! You just got to hang in there. You fuck up now think about 70 days you wasted. 70 to 90 is very quick!

    2) second problem you got is your constantly reminding yourself of "porn". Even though you aint watching it, constantly talking about it and the negative affect it had on you you're still feeding the brain the subject.

    Dont think about it and don't talk about it in any way shape or form!
     
  15. JD23

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    Everyone's mind and body are different. Some take days or weeks to recover, others take months or a year+ to fully recover. Yeah having PIED really sucks; I have severe PIED by the way, so I know how you feel pal. I wish I was at 70 days by now, haha, I'm currently on day 3. In my opinion, it's best to go with a clear mind like the others mentioned above. Don't worry about what's going on down there, and if you do happen to interact with a girl in person, try not to think about "oh fuck what if i cant get it up?!" etc. Think positive. Change your lifestyle too. Just hang in there! :)
     
  16. Huntilt

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    Thank you so much all for your reply and kind message, that help me a lot to receive all this support and I try to give support to when i read other post.
    What is very hard for me to avoid is these automatic thought that i can get my dude hard . Like it's natural that having sex = fail and i remember for like 2 3 min I had it hard with this girl and my mind was like "i feel something hard ok i can"t fail now let focus on it" and it was becoming soft just after. The "injury" is so deep its like its a part of me and i don't know how to reverse it. I read a lot of book about how to change negative thought to positive etc.. but when it's concrete my mind is only think on it. Even before i was at her house, when we were talking together i was thinking i cant have sex with her because of my PIED. It's terrible... I will continue the battle and i won't let my brain and mind trick me to relapse.
    I take every day 2 pills of natural herb (korean ginseng) from Holland and Barnet. Review said it's a great herb, for having a better mood, a better energy and improve libido. Well for sure i don' t feel any tiredness during the day (but that since i stop PMO) better mood i'm not sure, and libido improve well for sure I live in Paris so there is lot of hot and pretty girls in the street or the subway. But I don"t remember when was last time i had a spontaneous erection... probably 2 years ago or something. I had morning wood for sure but never during the day and never had a "reflexe erection" by a thought with a girl (i used to though)

    I guess you are righ BMDirty to share my thoughts of the days and thanks for following me.
    Well few word today, no surprised i feel very despressed and hopeless.. my friend i ended with last friday took a distance and said she didnt want anything than friendship with me. I think i have feeling with her and i had to protect myself which i didn't. I keep thinking that if i was able to have sex with her maybe she would like to see me again in another aspect than friendship.. but at my statut i need to enjoy my single state to improve my lifestyle, focus on my rebooting but i miss having an interaction with a girlfriend, dating, cuddling, going on holiday with.. I have not lot of friends in Paris (i moved in few month ago from London) and my close friend here is like meeting lot of pretty girl and can have relation with her without any problem, he has a great job and great coworker and live in a great flat so it's hard to feel so shit next to him. I am always in a bank overdraft at the end of the month, live in a suburb which is far away from paris so can't going out and come back anytime i want, and i hate my job and manager. The only think which push me to keep going here is that i'm going to travel in 4 countries during long weekend with my friends from london, and hometown... Well i don't really like speak negative so tomorrow i will write only positive aspect about me and my life! Last time i say something bad or negative is today :)
     
  17. BMDirty

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    I'm glad to hear man, I started out similarly, I'm in the united states and moved about 600 miles from where I grew up when I was 17. I had a problem before that wit PIED, but it blew up after I became a hermit.

    I didn't break the addiction until I left my exwife, even though I had been trying for a few years to stop. I think it was the feeling of taking charge of my life that brought on the strength to beat it.

    I lapsed again after the high from that died down, but I still remembered how I felt those months.

    I felt on top of the world and had literally forgot I had PIED, and wasn't thinking about PMOing, or fantasies.

    It all came back, but working back to that mental place I was has been easier knowing it's possible.
     
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  18. Huntilt

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    You seems, you went through lot of tough things you too and that makes us stronger and more motivate to beat that addiction. I'm still scared this addiction and PIED will be a part of my life forever and i dont know if we can be cured at 100%. After so many years of brain destruction how come everything can be forgetted especially as it was during my education and my teenage years when all come in and you start to build the adult i am now...

    I felt a bit more confident this week, I start to take korean ginseng alimentary complement which is supposed to help with the well being, improve libido, and give more energy. And it's getting better at work so my daily life is improve in comparaison to last month. Something "crazy" for me happened this week, i been texting a girl on tinder and during texting her I had a spontaneous erection just thinking i will dating her. It was quite hard and i was like "wtf, it never happen before" . When the date comes in, we quickly had an attraction from each other and when we kissed, i was excited and felt my little boy was "alive". We didn't go further after making out and i don't know when i will see her next time (actually i was in another city for my work this week so she doesn't live in my city)
    I know its now only psychological and my PIED start to get cured hopefully. I don"t have any urge to watch porn, but unfortunately i still continue to fantasing and using "alternative porn" (watching girls on facebook, instagram, tinder, speaking about sex with my friends) I never PMO on purpose so i wont reset my counting but this part is the most complicate for me. I haven't change all my 'lifestyle' but it's been 80 days and improvement start to show. I am aware 90 or 120 days is not enough regarding how damage my brain was .. and i have no idea when i will claim i am addicted free..?
     
  19. BMDirty

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    Urrg. I know I'm coming up on day 30 no PMO, and the strong urges are coming back. I just keep telling myself "I know I'll make it."

    It has been a very difficult couple of days.
     

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