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How do I avoid be a nice guy

Discussion in 'Self Improvement' started by Moogie, Mar 16, 2016.

  1. Moogie

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    Women call me a nice guy. And women don't have sex with nice guys and will use them.

    How can I fix this?
     
  2. Golgo 13

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    Stop giving a shit about what other people think. IF you were to die now, then people would not care about your death, maybe even laugh about it, so why give a shit about what other people think?

    Learn to love yourself, and women will love you. Don't put women on a pedestal. You are the man here.
    Most importantly, flirt with women in a sort of "I only want sex or want to take you home" kind of vibe. Women, no matter what they say, are even more horny then guys and they all want to fuck.
     
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  3. Ajar

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    Not all women. But yea, Golgo is pretty much one point with at least one thing. You are the man. Why the hell should you care what women think? If you are looking for sex or a relationship, then just wait. Be yourself. Niceness goes a long way in any relationship. If you believe that women only use good guys, maybe you should wait a little bit before thinking about dating and stuff; it seems you are still coming out of the whole women are objects portion of everything - its a conditioning by porn itself. Women love nice guys.

    Hell I know this because of my ex. Kind of the reason she is my ex - she liked nice guys. I was a porn addict. All we did when we met was make out - all I did was use her, and she still left me. I was not even nice to her. I was a complete douche. Being a complete douche, I regret it.
     
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  4. newman_unleashed

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    Once I got past worrying about impressing women I started getting a lot of interest from them. Focus on yourself. Do your thing. When you are finally confident and feel deserving of what you want you will get it.
     
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  5. ShotDunyun

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    A lot of women(not all of them) like jerks and douchebags. The moment I stopped being a nice guy, they started to pay a lot more attention to me. I'm not an asshole and I respect women, but sadly that's what a lot of them seem to like. Ignore them a little bit and dont give them everything they want the moment they ask for it.
     
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  6. Ajar

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    Advice for my next relationship lol. Thank you guys!
     
  7. newman_unleashed

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    This is only true in the case of superficial connections and girls looking to "hookup". Initial impressions may make seem like being a jerk is being confident (which women need and love). NOT THE SAME. No healthy lasting relationship ever came out of being a jerk/ douchebag.

    I will say that a little mystery and aloofness can definitely help a guy out. Be confident and busy. Women love a chase, but you have to interact with them enough to give them something to like.
     
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  8. Buzz Lightyear

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    What both niceness and douchebaggyness lack is strength. They tend to identify with mass culture whether it be the main stream or the counter culture. Be a strong-centered manly individual and you will find the right kind of woman drawn to you.
     
    Last edited: Mar 17, 2016
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  9. recoome

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    I would rather be a nice guy than a badass. I remember the time i was a douchebag or the time when i was like they show in movies, 'i live no regrets, i live in the moment.' sort of a narc.

    that works only in movies. in real life the regrets are like bees stinging your conscious.

    it's not only about being nice. you can be nice and muscular, nice and confident, nice and successful, nice and ambitious, nice nad protective...
     
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  10. Red Eagle

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    I don't think being a nice guy is the problem. Not being confident and putting women on a pedestal is. Be yourself and accept yourself. You're an awesome individual and the girls could be lucky to be with you. Women are not worth more than you. But if you put them on a pedestal they might think that you view them as better than you. And why would they go out with someone who is not as good as them?
    Once I had to go to an event and there I met a girl. I didn't really care for her. Yes she was nice and I didn't mind her being around but I had no sexual interest in her. The whole time I didn't try to act cool or be a badass. I was just being myself and not trying to impress anybody and at the end of the day she gave me her phone number without me asking. There was also another guy who was very extraverted who was talking to us the whole time and I was just being quiet and not talking that much. At the end of the day she didn't care for him lol. So the introvert kicked the extraverts ass without even trying XD.
    But there are so many different girls out there. Yes it's true that some girls like jerks but these women usually have low confidence themselves. Every woman is different and likes different kinds of guys. Nice guys would have died out if some women would not be interested in them.
     
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  11. vulture175

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    easy easy. you don't wanna be a nice guy? Next time when you talk to a woman, slap her, grab her hair, hold tight and pull around, then you say "this is what you deserve bitch". Now you are a real man. sounds good ?:cool:
     
  12. Nice guys aren't inherently bad, and you shouldn't aspire to avoid being perceived as such. It's some of the traits that a stereotypical nice guy has; neediness, being overly available, lacking a backbone. Women are drawn to independent men with values, goals and focus, who have their own shit going on. Be a man, but don't stop being nice.
     
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  13. TotalLifeChange

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    You can still be a nice guy as long as you are firm and confident, and do what you want to do, not letting others take advantage of you (being needy), and not being afraid to ask for what you truly want (being afraid).
     
  14. Moogie

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    I see so few woman because I work at night.
     
  15. TheWife

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    If you want a women's view... I like nice guys. But I also like independence, honesty, strength and confidence. These are not mutually exclusive with being a nice guy. Some of you hit on this above and I agree. Some of you missed the mark, by a long way.
     
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  16. ruso

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    To answer exactly your question: You'll avoid being a nice guy by making more decisions of your life: hobbies, ideas, rules you live by, saying "No" to things, saying "Yes" to others. But one can only do this by being independent, honest and having courage.
     
    Last edited: Mar 17, 2016
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  17. Bucklord

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    My advice, be able to walk away.. Not in just the form of leaving her completely.. If there is a situation where you aren't being treated right, know your worth, and leave that situation. Girls will step on you if they think they got you tied around their finger.
    The flip side to it as well, they will have a level of attraction for you if they know you have the stones to walk away like a man.
     
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  18. ruso

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    @Bucklord: Excellent point, those are the hardest decisions to make.
     
  19. Check it.
    I just typed a novel but just deleted all of it. Lol. Thought of this instead.

    A man is a garden and women are butterflies.
    If you want to just get laid you need to run around with your net that has a hole in it and play stupid games just to catch one. Think how many others are running around with nets.
    Forget the net. You build the garden work on yourself and the right type of butterflies will come flocking by the numbers.

    Day : onehundredandten
    Come at me temptation
     
    Last edited: Mar 17, 2016
  20. volt2187

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    Man, it's hard to change if you've been a sissy beta male like myself for your entire life, but when you realize it doesn't get you anywhere with the ladies you have to force the change. What I'm doing is just increasing my approaches and encounters so I get the experience showing off my confidence and so I don't get one-itis for certain girls (focusing too much on one girl, which leads to being too nice and needy, clingy, etc...).
     

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