Porn and it's existence

Wanting to stray from monogomy is analogous to wearing out a certain porn genre and seeking something more exciting. This will never make a person happy. The truth is that people have just been having way too much sex.

 

although porn is big business, it's interesting how relatively independent it's existence has become from monetary exchange. it's possible to get all the porn you want for free and while there is advertising to finance some of this, much is also user-contributed, ie ppl share what they have as an offering.
this thread is about what to do to expire porn and i don't think having the monetary reward schedule cut out would end it. if you were not allowed to make money from advertising in the internet, porn's presence would probably be still financed by somebody.
as with prostitution, the motivations behind the offerings are much more diverse than righteous propaganda likes to make believe.
that is why i believe you must address it on the side of the need, in other words, you have to offer the consumers something better than they can get with endless free porn.
as in the example of the massively receding prostitution when the pill came on the market and women became more promiscuous...

 

Wrong . . . I look at opinions all the time that aren't of my "heady worldview" and here's a newsflash: "People of my generation" are not a monolithic block and never have been. I knew liberals, conservatives, godly men and women, heathens and party monsters, shy ones, sad ones, bold ones, silly ones. We all didn't think the same thing, marry for the same reason, divorce right on schedule or follow in each others footsteps. We had the same diversity of thought as every generation, i.e. plenty. If you have any research to link us to about the "people of my generation", that's fine, I really am quite open-minded and happy to learn new things. And since you mention that "we're famous for" not being open-minded, people give me a few quotes from those who made us famous. If this is truly a reputation we bear I simply haven't heard it.

 

Why is it so accepted?

Because of ££££ and the fact its seen as normal and acceptable.

The tide is slowly turning much like it has on smoking, its starting to on drinking (oh the cost to the NHS etc) and it is slightly on this such as the UK govt token gesture that suggests ISPs should block adult content by default. Mine does but if you set it to teenage use then it blocks other harmless things too

 

And we are part of that movement too. We are helping others and their friends and loved ones.

 

if you are friendly, open to other points of view and correction, that's wonderful. i love hanging out with such people from any generation. but you will indulge me if i say that from the way you are presenting yourself in this thread (and this is all i know of you) you come across as angry, intolerant and conceited.
of course, this is about stereotyping, but let me remind you that you introduced this type of language ('you know nothing, i know all about this because i'm of this generation').
the reputation i'm referring to is that most of you guys are divorced, were neglectful as parents and that the majority of the kids of this generation feel sorry for their parents and have turned away from their ideals. the inability to look truth in the face was manifested, for example, in taboo against considering inherent gender differences, dangers in so-called soft drugs, inherent toxicities in certain aspects of women's lib legislation as well as a host of political positions. for example, the relativ stability and morality of the free market or the justice system etc. would have been taboo to predict, if anyone could have had such ideas.
from the outside it's something between tiring and funny to see people from that time thinking and talking all the time as though they were the center of the universe. we know that you guys have a high opinion of yourself because you can't stop putting it out. but from our point of view, the world has moved on and passed you by in so many ways. most of you guys don't even understand punk rock - i mean, that's 1977...
if you don't know that this is one strong aspect of the way that that generation is perceived (among many others, of course), i'd say just forget about it - no data or argument will persuade you...

 

Sorry, this just isn't my experience that's all. Most of my friends have great kids and didn't really think they were much. A bunch of them were farmers, one radiologist and a restaurant owner. I go to the reunions and we all laugh at ourselves for being so self-conscious and so lacking in confidence. I'm sure there's people like you're describing but man, nobody thought they were the "center of the universe", they were all pretty much self-conscious and trying to find some relevance.

 

well, i guess so much for the art of stereotyping!
perhaps the existence of porn is just as complex...

 

I think you're on to something there. I'm beginning to equate it with mythology - in your fantasies you don't have to deal with a real woman with her own preferences and attitudes who you more or less have to treat as an equal. It's just harder than shit to be in a relationship that grows ever and ever more intimate, and the mind has a great, great capacity for imagination and fancy, and for being carried away into notions where you're the hero, or the explorer, or smartest guy in the room, or star athlete. And if you have a really highly developed sexualized part, a big libido, and I would say especially if the rest of you didn't get much attention or acknowledgement, (or development) then it's probably natural to retreat to your fantasy life where cute cheerleaders are lining up to give you a blowjob. I know it was too easy for me. And of course, the porn industry just formed around the demand. I don't think you're completely wrong about certain generations being a little less hard-working than others, or a little more narcissistic. There's some truth in that.

 

yes, mythology... i guess the myth of a fulfilling gender identity . i somewhere read of a study which concluded that most peoples' enduring sex-fantasies were attempts to erase some aweful experiences, i.e. to tell the (messed up real life) story right. almost everybody i told this story glanced up to the left for a few seconds and then agreed...
i guess it's quite multilayered as a problem. in a way it's completely natural to want to see such things, much of which is very simple to explain by the dopamine rewards for procreative effort. perhaps the problem of pornography proliferation is really just one of many similar problems of this age of super-stimuli. sugar, fat foods, meat, caffeine, (e-)communication, information, music, gambling, shopping, alcohol & drugs all seem to be available to degrees that were traditionally rare, even for the very rich. i guess, we just have to evolve very quickly to guard ourselves against following those natural inclinations, even just to survive...

 

The virtual reality porn is around the corner, and I bet that it will cause even more damage to the individuals indulging in it.

First, expensive hardware, maybe coupled with some dedicated toys or other "devices". Also, the added damage of being right in, and wanting to stay in that VR world.

Porn drives technology. What's next?

 

I believe there is an inter-temporal effect too.
By that i mean every generation started with one initial level of sex and porn presence that was slowly increasing, and while not benefiting the experience of anterior generation, the new générations just dont realise how bad it can be that porn and sex have so much presence in the society.
It seemed clearer in my head

The more presence porn/sex/... have, the more we are used to it, and the limits to the morality are pushed further back with every generation.
Of course in Middle-age it was far worse, but there were positive chocs driving anterior societies out of deviance, as much as there have been -in more recent générations- chocs that had negative effects regarding this subject( the after WWII, internet's expansion,...)

There is an acceptance in our society on Something that most people doubt was ever immoral. We cant even agree on what morality, good and bad things are, and its at the advantage of liberalism. Morality was the biggest obstacle to sexual liberalism and now that it is gone, there are lesser and lesser taboos.

I disagree that this is Something we all choose. Society and general acceptance have an influence on our behaviour.
When we ask our children to read, in a scholar environment, about old books that clearly put on emphasis on sexual relations, we influence there mind on what is accepted or not, and what they should and should not do.
I was personnaly asked to read one of Stendhal's book at 13 years old. The only thing i got out of it is the sexuality in the book (because it's a damn hard book to get for a Young person, especially with incompetent teachers, aka educators), and it played a big deal in my own 'sexuality' and tastes. .
More, school gives an introduction to sexuality, then let children alone in the 'anknownforest' and they have to find the way out by themselves; and one of those ways leads to porn.

Anyway we ask to youngsters a decreased level of responsability and it contrasts with the increased attacks on their phsychic

ps: sorry for the capital letters i dont know why it happens

 

This is a great perspective for me to be reminded of . . . that my addictions are tied together in a giant cluster to each other and that something is at the core. WHAT is that thing at the core? Am I trying only to avoid anxiety that I've had virtually all my life? And if so, you're correct, in the past, this stuff was not all handed to us on every street corner, beer, Twinkies, porn, Twitter, streaming movies, internet gaming, strip clubs . . . . we live in a giant room full of almost nothing but distracting objects. And we're lonely all the time. I would say yes, there are certainly "layers" of "junk civilization" to claw through.