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HOCD/porn addition and gay porn

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Icetiger100, Apr 5, 2016.

  1. A persons identity is not determined what type of porn a person watches. here is a link that referes to what the OP has suffered: http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/porn-induced-ed-start-here
     
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  2. JonathanDoe

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    Hi @ReeJS, well done on being P free for 6 months - that's a great achievement! Although I haven't experienced any ED, my situation is similar to what yours was. I used to enjoy M'ing to women then through time moved on to more extreme P. I'm at the point now where masturbating in front of other men on cam is my sole source of pleasure. Like you, I'm straight and not attracted to men in the real world but receiving compliments on my body parts from guys is such a turn on.

    I hope that in the future I'll be at the place you're in now.
     
  3. julibitch1

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    You cannot be sexually attracted to men, as a male, and not be homosexual. You are, at least for that moment, homosexual. There is no other definition for homosexual. However, the difference between porn and real life, is that porn offers the best of the best. Whereas real life offers... uglier people, for lack of a better word, and uglier scenarios. The fantasy isn't as perfect in real life. There are far too many thoughts in your mind, far too many things to consider before acting out a sexual fantasy in real life. This is quite possibly why there is less of a sexual reaction to men in public, much more is going through your mind, and you are probably more judgmental in this environment.

    And of course, your taste in men may be so small and limited, that you can only be aroused by this fantasy while being at your peak levels of arousal. Whereas with women, it may be more common and require less desire.

    If your intention is to be rid of your homosexual desires, then do not think about them at all and do not focus on them. In saying this, when these thoughts do come to you, and they will, recognize it, be content, there's nothing wrong, and it will eventually fade. There more attention you give to your "problem", with the intention of solving it, the more attention you are giving to your "problem", and possibly not solving it. Right?

    Just don't worry about it. You know who you want to be, be who you want to be.
     
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  4. diamondboi

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    Reality Check over load.

    Agree.

    I was hard into pornography, even at my lowest never ventured into the homosezuals section of novelty. The thought always grossed me out, even if I were browsing continously and loosing interest. I would continue to search for female erotica until I got off.

    I don't believe fo a second a straight male will be attracted to gay porn unless they them self are curious to begin with. A lot of men may in fact be straight but also curious of other men, hence your Taste in homosexual porn. Test the waters maybe you will like it more then you think.
     
  5. I know what it is like to have HOCD but the best way to overcome it is to stop watching porn, any and all types, and second replace porn with something more positive in your life, OK dude, you are not gay.
     
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  6. You are at a point in your porn addiction where you have become numb to straight porn, your brain wants to try something new but you have to fight it. I agree that you should look up, your brain on porn.
     
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  7. Icetiger100

    Icetiger100 Fapstronaut

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    Wow. Thanks for all of you're replies. I didn't know that they're a lot of people who actually go through this. I'm trying to quit porn and start the NoFap thing, but my stubborn hocd/ocd is making this a whole lot harder. Even though I still love girls my hocd keeps telling me to check gay porn and straight/ lesbian porn to see if I'm straight or gay. It's been like this for a few months now it's gotten to the point where I don't watch porn for excitement or enjoyment anymore. It's like I do it just for the sake of checking.
    When I check with straight/ lesbian porn it just feels so right. But when I check with gay porn I just feel anxiety and disgust and just think wtf am I doing this? Any tips?
     
  8. Icetiger100

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    Well I'm not sexually attracted to men though. I like women in real life and not men.

    According to yourbrainonporn I most likely wanked off to a gay video because of dopamine not because im homosexual. I was tired of all the lesbian/straight porn because Ive seen it all and it wasn't as exciting as it was. That's why as escalated to grandma porn beatiality porn and so on, the usual stuff was boring now and the newer stuff was just new.

    I think homosexuals started off watching gay porn in the beginning because that's what they originally liked. Unlike staights who started out with straight porn because that's what they like.
     
  9. tweeby

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    Hi Icetiger100,

    Welcome to the forums, first off congratulations you're coming to terms with your sexuality. As you've probably realized this is a strong indicator of who you actually are as you've been probably burying it and keeping it a secret. ALL my friends who are now ALL FULLY GAY and happy say they have experienced exactly the same thing as you.

    They started off looking and normal porn but eventually they got bored and now they seek pleasure from gay porn. It is no surprise that the same story is exactly the same as your own, down to the very last details. Even my friend who is now fully gay and listens to opera and watches GLEE musicals has told me he watched the same anime porn 'boku no pico' as you did!!

    Don't be afraid to accept who you are. YBOP is not correct, it is just lies made up to surpress your true inner feelings. HOCD isn't even accepted as a scientific terms in the DSM it is a fabricated abbreviation made up by the right wing groups. (read post #2)

    http://emptyclosets.com/forum/coming-out-advice/65545-how-can-you-say-hocd-doesnt-exists.html

    I'm so happy for you and hopefully you will have the courage to explore your feelings in real life :D

    You mentioned someone telling you if you have a gay dream, it must mean you're gay, there is also the ring finger test. I know you like testing yourself.

    http://www.gayexplained.com/homosexuality-finger-length/

    Basically if your ring finger is shorter or the same length as your index (pointer finger) you have a 99% chance of being gay. Also check yourself as you walk in the mirror, if you have more of a hip swing, or gay swag as I like to call it, it must mean you are harbouring latent homosexual tendencies.
     
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  10. iwanttobemyoldselfagain

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    Don't beat yourself up. You clearly stated that having sex with a guy would gross you out, and that is a clear indication that you're not gay. If you're ever attracted to a real guy, not in porn, and your desires go beyond sex i.e. wanting intimacy with him, dating etc. then you can cross that bridge when you get to it and evaluate your sexuality then. Until then, stay strong on the path for quitting porn and stop for nothing. All the best.
     
  11. tweeby

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    I've helped my friends in the same boat as you, and now I love going to gay bars with my friend and being his wing man, plus it leaves more girls for me :D, as a lot of girls go to gay bars. Don't be afraid my friend, we're all rooting for people like you. You're not alone.

    Also I just found this post.
    https://www.nofap.com/forum/index.p...-life-and-mental-breakdown.63023/#post-476920

    Which sounds 100% like you. This person after fighting his urges for so long finally gave up and now accepts his sexuality as being totally gay. I have no doubt this will happen with you. You just have to stop the fight and accept yourself for who you truly are bruh.
     
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  12. iRebootMyself

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    Yeah, thanks for fucking his mind up more...
     
  13. tweeby

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    Sorry but I'm not "fucking up his mind more." I just think a lot of gays, need to feel accepted that what they are viewing is perfectly normal and not some made up term like HOCD which doesn't even exist, see post on empty closets post #2. If the OP is getting turned on by twinks and other gays we should really be supporting him. I support anyone who has trouble accepting they enjoy watching gay porn and would like to pursue a real life relationship. As no doubt, the OP, and most definitely even yourself must have had thoughts about.

    We shouldn't demonize the sexual preferences of these people.

    btw @Elnayeeeek nice avatar, is it tim burton?
     
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  14. iRebootMyself

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    Look man, i'm suffering from HOCD lately, and had been PMOing on straight porn my entire life, then it went to trans and some hardcore suff like BDSM, then i PMO'd on gay porn once and it got me HOCD.. then i stopped porn.
    So you believe that latent homosexuality exists while HOCD does not?
    Yeah, people like to label themselves because they know who they are and what they like.
    Because you're gay "i don't see anything wrong of you being gay, but i see it very wrong of me being gay" i know its hard for you to understand how HOCD feels like and why we are suffering so hard from it, gay people can get HOCD "H stands for heterosexual" and you can read about it if you want.
     
  15. tweeby

    tweeby Banned

    Sorry bruh, I don't know where you got I'm gay, I'm not and I've NEVER looked at gay porn to pmo to it.

    HOCD is made up and I quote from empty closets...

    Thus proving the term doesn't exist, isn't formally recognised and it 100% a made up term for those coming to terms with their sexuality, I've nothing against this. I have lot of gay friends and they're the nicest people in my opinion, but when you're born into a straight world it is very easy to convince yourself you must be straight when naturally these gay people probably force themselves into looking at straight lesbo porn.

    We shouldn't be putting ideas on someone we know nothing about. If you prove or quote where the term HOCD has been recognised by a reputable health/ psychology association group I'd be happy to read.
     
  16. iRebootMyself

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    i didn't say that you're gay, i gave you just an example..

    "HOCD is a figment of the imagination of the religious crazies who are in denial about the fact they're gay. It is not recognized in the DSM, nor by any reputable association of psychotherapists, psychiatrists, social workers, or counselors." really huh...

    many books and many forums are based and talking about how to deal with HOCD..
    OCD can take many forms, not only those OCDs like "Doors and locks, hand washing, etc..."
    you said you don't believe in YBOP, so why there is a counter in your signature ?
     
  17. diamondboi

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    Agree with coming in terms of your homosexuality.

    I watched pornography for over a decade and never ventured once into the male on male section for novelty. Didn't matter how desensitized I became it grossed me out thinking about it. I'm sorry but you're coping within the fact that you're curious of the salty banana and it's fruits.

    My suggestions are to test the waters as a undecided straight guy on grindr, a popular gay version of tindr. That's your true test.


    It seems like all these Hocd cases are a matter of being curious. My best friend is gay, and he himself eventually as he said got bored of girls and after 12 years of being in the closest came into terms and hasn't looked back since
     
  18. tweeby

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    You could always take the gay test, if you really don't know.

    http://www.gay-test.com/

    The results are likely to be fabulous!
     
  19. Icetiger100

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    Coming to terms with my sexuality? Well I've always loved girls ever since I was young and I'm currently crushing on one right now...sooo...

    I haven't been burying anything though.

    Before all of this gay porn and HOCD I've always loved girls and never once had a single thought about men. I would always have thoughts about women and would masturbate to some of my FEMALE crushes. So I just have a strong feeling that I'm not gay.


    If your gay friends actually started out watching and enjoying straight and lesbian porn like I did then I don't really think that they're gay. It's supposed to be the opposite. If they were truly gay then I think it goes like this

    1. Gay porn
    2. Develope porn addition
    3. Gay porn becomes numb to them
    4. Then straight porn/ something else because of dopamine. Their brain craves something new.


    By reading your stuff it seems like you really have no idea what HOCD is.

    Yes it IS a real thing. It's a branch of ocd.

    Here read this. They're from actual doctors and psychologist.

    https://iocdf.org/expert-opinions/homosexual-obsessions/

    http://www.ocdbaltimore.com/hocd-sexual-orientation-ocd-part-one/

    Be sure to read it ALL then come back.

    I've also watched granny porn too, so I guess that's also a strong indication that Im granny sexual or something? Even though I don't like grandmas in real life?

    I've also watched fat lady porn (also known as bbw) so I guess that means Im also fat lady sexual or something even though I would never have sex with a fat woman in real life?

    Ybop is wrong??? Not really. I don't think you've actually been to the website. Try going to the site again and try reading the HOCD testomonys. Including the straight ocd ones (gay people who are obsessing about being straight even though they're clearly gay)

    Empty closets isn't proof of anything. Those aren't psychologist or doctors talking on that site. It's just gay people who don't understand porn addition and HOCD/OCD.


    Lol seriously dude. The finger thing

    What's funny is that I was obsessing about this bull all through out last week staring at my fingers non stop. Even though my ring finger was bigger than my index finger (meaning I'm straight according to that dumb theory) I was still obsessing over that shit like crazy.

    Your fingers don't determine your orientation dude. There are gay people with there index finger shorter than their ring finger.

    Here. Your own website debunks the theory.

    http://emptyclosets.com/forum/chit-chat/94530-finger-length-ratio.html
     
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  20. Icetiger100

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    Damn dude. It's kinda scary how you sound exactly like me lol.

    Btw. Did this whole no porn for 90 days help?
     

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