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Game of Thrones isn't what it used to be

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by acr007, Jun 11, 2016.

  1. acr007

    acr007 Fapstronaut

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    Ever since this new season started it has lost its flare. we are already at episode 8 and there has only been 1 or 2 great storylines.
     
  2. Quiver

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    I kinda agree but I still love it though. They are all preparing for the big episode. The BIG clash of kings. I'm pretty excited about it
     
  3. Red Eagle

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    The sixth season is pretty good. Don't think it has lost in quality. But to me it seems to move too fast. At this point it doesn't really focus on the characters anymore ,which was the shows biggest strength, but on the storylines. All characters have been fleshed out more than enough to DB and DB it seems. They restrain from adding new characters who actually play a big role (Lady Stoneheart, Young Gryphon, Arriane Martell) and concentrate on the already present story arks. For the fleshed out version of the story we have to wait until The Winds of Winter is released.
    But I wouldn't judge the season too much before it is over. A lot of things can happen in the final episodes. Most of the interesting stuff in season 5 happened in the last episodes too.
     
  4. Quiver

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    Good points :)
     
  5. Jungler

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    I would watch GoT if it weren't for the 1000 boobs showing every second.
     
  6. Quiver

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    That will only in the first 4 episodes. Right now it is way less. I would understand it though. It's full of triggers
     
  7. yousuff

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    Never watched a single second of GOT. I enjoy watching lectures from MIT or Harvard professors.
     
  8. Secularstruggler

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    it needs to start kicking off now. i am sick of dynaraes speeches about how everyone should bow to her and stuff. Well make them then bitch make them
     
  9. Season so far wasn't the best season but I felt that this season was just a big setup for the next season.We already seen Jon and Sansa being re-united and then with his sister.I have a feeling that Jon and Daenerys will unite in the last season.I could count about 2 episodes that really disappointed me.The storyline with Arya in Brovos really did not pay off in the end.This coming episode battle of the bastards has me both excited and afraid for my favourite chracters(mainly Jon and Davos).I am confident that this episode will be one the best episodes in the series but that remians to be seen.
     
  10. Jehu2077

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    The further they get from the source material, the more the show suffers. These characters are GRRM's and when the show turns them into something or someone else it doesn't fit or feel right. It feels rushed, and from what I've read the rest of the series will be even more rushed and will shoehorn people in to their places for the final act.
    I consider it glorified fan fiction at this point. Though I know many events that have taken place will probably happen in some way in GRRM's work, I doubt it will occur quite the same way.
    The big sticking point for me was Rickon turning into a basic plot device while in the books (sorry I'm that guy) a whole other plot line is forming around Davos finding him on the island of Skagos.
    I get it though, it worked pretty well for the scene they were setting up (but seriously writers, no zig zagging?) and got us to where the writers wanted the story to be. In that respect it all worked nicely, and that battle scene was awesome!
    All that said, even if Rickon buys the farm in the Martin universe, I think it will happen with greater care and probably be a bit more believable. The series doesn't want to flesh out another character who has been gone for a long time and hasn't been a focal point since the beginning (which being the de facto lord of winterfell would make him a major character) and there are certainly budget limits on the series as far as how much of the story they can tell. Can't fault them for that.
    Bottom line, the way the Martells and Rickon bought it are indicative of lazy writing designed to shoehorn characters into events and emotionally jar the audience. Not as good as it used to be.
    But duh, I'm still gonna watch.
    Oh and a note on triggers. For some reason now GoT doesn't get to me like it used to (hooray progress?) but I 100% get why many choose to avoid it, and my wife and I have considered calling it quits after this season. We'll see come next year.
     
  11. Daredevil99

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    I think it's down to that we expect these plot twists and stuff because we're now on the 6th season it forms a pattern, that said the battle of the bastards was incredible despite being fairly obvious of the outcome
     
  12. Jehu2077

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    Battle of the Bastards was epic, but we could've had that without the nonsensical Umber betrayal, which makes absolutely no sense in the context of the show. Forget about what the books say, the Umbers turning over their legitimate liege lord all because the Nights Watch Lord Commander (a bastard nonetheless) let a couple thousand wildlings through the wall? Not even enough to fight a single battle on their own and he thinks it's enough to betray the Starks? That's a huge leap for a family that has been loyal to the Starks for so long.
     
  13. I enjoyed the first season but lost interest in the second and never went back. I like the fact that people watch it here, as I know others here will start barking at all the sex scenes in it if somebody is recommending it as a show to watch as I've seen in the past. We can't let triggers run our lives. Eventually we need to take responsibility for our own minds and choices. A trigger is not what makes us relapse, it is the pictures we already have formed in our minds that determines the choices we WANT to make. We are not helpless tools at the mercy of external stimuli.

    With that said, some fun images :)

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  14. Good to know :rolleyes:
     
  15. Jehu2077

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    TBH I've never felt the sexual violence was glorified, but that it was depicted at all is unsettling. Plenty of ways to insinuate that a young woman was raped without depicting the act, but no one has ever called GoT subtle.
    That said I have never felt that the sexual content added to the show in any way. In the books it is present, but it's rarely the focus of a scene. It was much worse in the early seasons because nudity is cheaper than CGI rendered battles and draws in plenty of viewers (not kidding, the budget was so low that boobs came before battles). Now we see less of that but it's still there. It never really triggers me when I see it (though random crap in real life does) but it does cause me to question just why I am sitting there watching it.
     
  16. I really want to watch game of thrones because almost everyone I know loves that show, but I was told that there's a lot of triggers in it? so I'm just choosing to not watch it till I feel like I can control my urges.
     
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  17. Themadfapper

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    Season 6 although still good is by far the worst season, IMO. It really does seem like they are no longer following Martin's script, but instead employed some feminist writers to appease the nutcase fan base that is upset that Ramsey took marital rights with his bride.

    No one was upset that Ramsey's step mother and his half brother were fed alive by Ramsey to his dogs, but a scene where Sansa gets bent over a bed, and we don't even see her get sexed has some in such horror? Am I to assume from this that feminists don't care about children and overweight women and only attractive younger women?

    How about poor Reek getting his dick and fingers cut off along with a portion of his skin, and tortured and messed with in the head to such a degree that he betrayed his sister to please Ramsey [ Stockholm syndrome]

    While episode 9 had a lot of action it was still disappointing. The lesbo[not lesbo in the book] queen of the Iron Isles teaming up with Dany together mocking Yara's Uncles supposed belief that he would win Dany over with his cock had me cringing.

    Dany's riding of the dragons just seems ludicrous to me a saddle of some sort might would add some plausibility, as well where is the ballista to shoot at these dragons? That being said I'm glad to see the dragons finally let loose.

    The Bolton battle was very predictable and a bit of a letdown, IMO. I liked how Ramsey used Rickon, but John Snow being so utterly moronic and his entire army following him in his stupidity was bad plot writing. As well why the hell didn't Sansa tell him she had this massive army to back him up which every viewer of the show knew was gonna arrive at the last minute?

    Ramsey although despicable is one of the best characters and best-acted characters in the TV show. His ending was a disappointment, and Sansa watching him fed to his dogs did not seem right at all or the like the act of a Stark.
     
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  18. Jehu2077

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    That's the best policy. You could try the books first, there is some sexual content but for some that's not a trigger. If you think that would be too much for you then yes it's better to leave it alone until porn isn't a factor in your life.
    I struggle with triggers most days but ironically the stuff in GoT just doesn't seem to do it.

    You're right about Ramsey, Iwan Rheon really brought that character to life. Disagree with the use of Rickon in this episode. Although it fit Ramsey perfectly, it was sloppy writing. No efforts to doge incoming arrows on top of the absurdity of the Umber betrayal (I could believe it in the books because their house divided but not in the series) just doesn't click, it was lazy.
    I feel it would have been a much more powerful ending for Sansa (or maybe Jon) to decapitate Ramsey the way Ned would have. Way more fitting of a Stark. But some think that Sansa is less a Stark now and more a Baelish, but it still feels out of her character.
    I don't have a problem with the "girl power" direction the show is taking except that it does feel entirely forced and out of bounds from what the author intended, but I could be wrong, I haven't read all the books yet.
    You're right about the selective outrage against things in this show though, but rape is still pretty dang awful.
     
  19. Themadfapper

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    Rickon is still mostly a child, but I can see having an issue with him not zig zagging. As well I don't think arrows are quite that accurate at that distance, but I can't say for sure? Using Rickon that way though was classic Ramsey.

    It's GOT and the "good guys" if there are any should not always win and things should not always have a fitting or happy ending, but this along with the "girl power" seems to be the forced direction the show is taking now.

    Rape is certainly a crime and an immoral misdeed, however, it pales to the things that Ramsey did to Reek. Maybe I don't remember the scene that well but the "rape" wasn't even that clear and really didn't fit that well in GOT considering its a medieval show. In Got forced marriages to align houses happen and marital rights are a part of that. What I recall of the scene was Sansa slightly crying bent over a bed waiting for Ramsey to do his thing. Meaning I'm not sure he even really forced it upon her other than by the situation forced upon her and the implication of what happens if she doesn't behave. Ramsey certainly treated her bad like he does nearly everyone around him, but Sansa was far from the worst mistreated.


    It just seems like a feminist SJW "point" to me. Meaning it's not a real point the outrage is contrived and it's done to push an agenda. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs, but it's starting to piss me off now that I'm seeing it may actually be affecting a show that I really liked along with the whole fantasy genre of fiction.
     
  20. Jehu2077

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    Well this is kind of the first time the "good guys" have had anything go their way in a long LONG time, so I'm okay with that.
    And Ramsey was a great shot, the arrow punching clean through hide and leather and through his chest though? No, plenty of nerds have tested the effectiveness of arrows against armor and leather/hide did plenty well, especially at a great distance. Would probably bring him down, puncture a lung, but go clean through? Arrows wounded men and took them out of the fight, they were rarely ever killing blows. Most unrealistic part of what was otherwise a very realistic battle.
    It's rape if you don't want it, and she clearly didn't, that why it was grotesque and disturbing to see at all. I hated everything about that scene and regret ever watching it. Almost made me quit the show.
    We'll see where this goes though, I'm not giving up on it yet.
     

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