Is stimulation without MPO allowed?

M is get pleasure managinng yourself , by the rules of noFap its forbidden

 

It is important to stop all sexual stimulation, including anal masturbation or prostate masturbation. All these things release huge amounts of dopamine into the brain. This is what you are trying to solve. So, you need to stop ALL sexual actions for several months. Afterwards your dick will have strong, hard erections and you will be able to penetrate and cum during sex.

 

Nope. I'd stimulate by air humping n kissing the pillow. I've stopped it completely now.

 

but it doesnt working. by kissing the pillow i am like playing with my dick. its erect n a slight stroke or rubbing against bed mattress or jeans leads to ejaculation n then binge masturbation and/or porn.

i used to edge a lot and think it's all right. like it's okay to think of sex but not masturbate. just play with erection using thoughts.

thoughts lead to actions n thus i never managed to go beyond a week of nofap.
but this time no more sex thoughts or stimulation. i'm taking it as strictly as one battles a physical ailment like cancer.

porn wrecks the mind.

 

Yep. I've gotten back with my old friends on watsapp. i'm not much social but its better than being alone n fapping. early morning i chat with someone on watsapp or just send the small talk good morning. maybe like a poem...

the sun is rising
high in the sky
the day is starting
some sleep i want to buy

 

If that makes sense and works for you, that's. But I'm always naked at home (alone) and it has no effect on my temptation.

 

Well, I do not see that it is connected. There are other days you have a big boner. But you wouldn't say: "I was fully clothed, today, alone at home and I had a big boner." Being clothed or naked does not cause a hard on. That happens in your brain. Also, saying: "I couldn't help masturbate" makes no sense. You could have controlled yourself. You were home alone - you could have had a cold shower. If you thought being naked made temptation more likely, you could have put some underpants on. You could have got dressed and went out so you were not alone. You could have come here and used the panic button or read a success story.... MASTURBATION IS A CHOICE! It is never uncontrollable or inevitable.

 

You have my sincere empathy. My post was not intended to say that it is easy to say no to masturbation. I have spent over two years to get this far! But we have to be realistic, so we do not get deceived by our own mind. Because we are addicted, we can tell ourselves things that make it easier to slip up. On the other hand, what works for you is something only you can say. Maybe some guys have a really nice cock and get aroused by seeing themselves naked etc... Who knows? Hahaha.

 

What! No!

Yes to the individual, perception can be more important and seem more real than truth. Stop looking at your dick man!

 

You crack me up dude! Yeah, why not love your Billy? "Billy" must be Italian. In England we say "Willy", hehehe

But try not to touch him, lmao