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Modafinil - has anyone used if for motivation??

Discussion in 'Self Improvement' started by OnceWeWereWarriors, Aug 19, 2016.

  1. OnceWeWereWarriors

    OnceWeWereWarriors Fapstronaut

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    I'm curious about this smart drug Modafinil. I keep reading about it and it seems to offer a genuine improvement in motivation and also some reduced feelings of depression.

    Seems to me it could help a bit with stopping the old wanking? I mean if I had more energy maybe I wouldn't be so keen to slouch in front of the computer jerking away...?

    Anyone here had some experience of Modafinil? Did it help give you a bit of motivation to get important shit done and focus?
     
  2. I've taken modafinil many times. Not for porn quitting motivation, but mainly just because I read about it and was curious.

    I would say that it helped me focus on even the most mundane work task. The ideal task is like writing a report or crunching numbers on a spreadsheet. For that it is incredible. But I found I could only use for a few days in a row before I felt that taking was just getting me back to my baseline level of energy, never a good sign with a drug! I still have a load in my desk drawer and will take a pill every now and again if I am really tired.

    When it comes to masturbation and modafinil I think that you need to be really careful that you don't end up masturbating after taking it. I did once and the porn session went on for hours and hours... my focus on finding the perfect video was just perfect. Kind of funny really. But maybe not the porn quitting support you need exactly?

    This blog talks about how using modafinil can lead to long masturbation sessions http://www.humanxt.com/best-modafinil-dosage/
     
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  3. nfprogress

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    @tacomanarrows is pretty much spot on.

    It absolutely can directly lead to porn binges (most stimulants 'can') so walk with caution.

    I have used the general class of eugeroics and have my own special effects. For me, they put me to sleep rather than keep me awake which may not be a common side effect, but it does happen. Often I will have an hour or two of intense productivity (more like the capacity to do a huge amount of house work) followed by sleep (not a crash, just sleep). It definitely builds tolerance quickly as previously stated.

    You have to drink a good bit of water with it as it can dehydrate you and reduce your appetite. It can also cause nausea so I'd consider taking it with food. If it is modafinil you are after, I'd start with a dose of no more than 50 mg to see how it impacts you. Some start with 100. Does it give motivation? Absolutely. Worth trying. Yes, for many people. YMMV. On a reboot? Hell no due to very high potential to binge and relapse. I personally wouldn't take it unless sex or M was on the table.

    It can reduce feeling of depression. Some of that is due to the feeling of euphoria you get and other parts are likely due to the wakefulness and extra productivity.

    For the record, when I take ephedrine I can also go on porn binges. They are very different drugs, but stimulants generally should be taken with a handful of salt.
     
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  4. Stimulants will do the opposite of helping you stop masturbating. Almost all stimulants are dopaminergic, Modafinil is no exception and that increased dopamine will lead to increased arousal, lowered inhibitions, etc. Dopamine is the same substance causing you to give in and edge for hours (or give in and O) after you just touched yourself briefly for a few seconds.

    When I used to use stimulants recreationally that was the period when I masturbated the most. I'd sometimes get through 15+ orgasms in a mere 3-4 hours, and after each one I'd still be horny. Why? Dopamine blocks prolactin, and prolactin is the substance released on orgasm that drops your testosterone levels temporarily, turns you off, kills your boner, and gets you to take a break for a while. So binge sessions happen very easily when dopamine is elevated. There's a reason porn stars often consume stimulants before filming.

    Modafinil is certainly milder than something like adderall or cocaine or anything like that, but still.. Unless you have iron willpower and can cope with far stronger urges that don't just go away, I wouldn't consider taking //any// stimulants on NoFap personally.
     
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  5. @JesusGreen good info there, thanks. I never knew about the effects on prolactin, but it certainly fits my experience.

    I've always craved stimulants. I think that it correlates with porn use although I've never read any research on the topic. But once at a Sex Addicts Anon meeting the conversation turned to cocaine and it turned out that 3 of the 4 of us in the room had been heavy users at some stage in our lives. Not exactly scientific study but I think it makes sense that we all favoured drugs which work on the dopamine system.
     
  6. Dziki007

    Dziki007 Fapstronaut

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    From what site you can get modafinil?
     
  7. dietcoke

    dietcoke Fapstronaut

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    Whenever I take stimulants I have no desire whatsoever to PMO.

    In the last month, every day that I masturbated was a day that I did not use stimulants. Stim-using days had zero masturbation.

    For example. A week or two ago I was stimmed up and out of habit started looking at porn. I remember myself actually taking notes and analyzing techniques, cross-referencing videos as if I were pursuing a doctorate in sex.

    Clinically, stimulants are not currently prescribed for disorders similar to PMO (ICD). (cf. Impulse control disorders: updated review of clinical characteristics and pharmacological management, Schreiber et al).

    Modafinil is an anti-narcoleptic, used in the military to keep pilots awake for long flights. It is not what people typically would consider a stimulant, although certainly I can see why some might refer to it that way. It has some weak stimulant-like effects and I think it's quite good if you expect to find yourself nodding off. I have used it in the past to for example stay up all night to study. Much healthier than caffeine. Remember to take it in the morning because of the long duration.
     
  8. jasminfernandes

    jasminfernandes New Fapstronaut

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    I have been taking Modafinil and its really beneficial.
     
  9. itsfreedom

    itsfreedom New Fapstronaut

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    TBH I'd very wary of drugs advertised as panaceas; they mostly become crutches, and your body becomes resistant to them in the long run where you need more to have the same effect. It's like taking painkillers to "solve" pain without addressing the root cause.

    This is the trap. You have lowered energy because jerking off takes away your energy and ability to manage stress. It was the same for me; I did pmo to cope with stress and it made me way less resistant long run with overall less energy.
     
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