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Whats the story with camgirls?

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by dorpwnz, Jun 13, 2016.

  1. Kristen

    Kristen Guest

    The majority of the time i would talk to and make friends first. I feel like its more fun if u get to know the person a little. Or at times id be too desperate to talk...

    I had alot of regular guys/friends.

    It was hard leaving them behind and they all were devastated. And probably if i checked my skype account there would be tons of messages.
    At times i miss them.
    Cause i feel like we were friends. But at the same time i feel anger because i wanted there love, just someones love..and was putting out so much for it. And getting nothing.
    They would say Im hot and stuff but not good enough to date in real?
    Not enough to be together for real?
    So i felt like if i tried harder to be hotter, I could gain there love. But when I did bring one man into reality. He really took advantage of me. And didn't treat me with much care or respect. And was saying it was my fault.
    I just want to make someone happy and feel there needs and have someone who wants to spend time with me. Have someone who thinks im worth there time and energy. I only know how to do that through sex? Because thats the only attention I have ever been given. The only time I feel worthwhile. Sorry for ranting like this..its just been bothering me. Please no mean feedback...I dont need it.
     
  2. The reason I stuck with porn and PMO largely was because I thought somehow when I would MO to those girls, I would do it with a level of utmost love, respect and care. Before I went numb to my habitual self-abuse, I genuinely cried while watching porn - I deeply hurt when I saw the girls being subjected to and subjecting themselves to such torture, loneliness and filth. I wanted to prove to myself that I am capable of being altruistic and being able to give love unconditionally. And that if I could give it to those people, areas, and mind-spaces where neglect, abuse and vicious self-gratification rancid-ly reeks in every pore and perforation, I would prove to myself that I can be more than just a rotting life-form, living a dream inside my mind... all alone. That my time and energy meant something to someone and it wasn't just playing to the tune of the ticking time-bomb. That I was worth it, that life saw me as worthy of existing. The tool I used was sex... and the reason I continued to self-destruct was because I couldn't reach out and make my fellow human feel loved. A sinking realization that if I gave it my best shot, I can maybe take you to the sunset boulevard but I can never... open your shut eyes. And slingshot, boomerang back to me... no one can really change my life except perhaps me. They can shower me with their love... for a minute, maybe a day or maybe a year or maybe their whole lives, but if I am not receptive to it, I will never feel loved. So, Kristen, try loving yourself for a change. Instead of trying to feel loved, happy or good, just try to be alive to each moment. The palette of emotions are at our disposal, they stop being tools of subdued complacency once we assume control and responsibility for our lives.
     
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  3. Simon Shy

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    Sweetheart, you're so young, and I'm sorry that you've been through all of this. Particularly the loneliness. Don't give up, because you have so many possibilities ahead of you. And don't let any deception take you back to those places - you've done well to leave them behind.

    I pray God's blessing on you. Chin up - you're valuable to Him.
     
  4. zip6331

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    It seems that the new thing now are Snapchat videos that require little effort. With camming you actually need to sign up with the provider and from what I learned it requires a lot of patience and work, and you have to be a real hustler. It sounds like a real full time job. With Snapchat all it takes is a phone and you're in business. What makes me laugh, is that guys are "paying" these people with Amazon Gift Cards sometimes as much as $100. The idiocy of it is the "Snap" show is only good for 24 hours and then it's gone forever.The other thing that cracks me up is how a guy doesn't get that there is no way that the person creating the "Snap" could possibly do what she's doing without someone filming it, it not a personal thing, just another "performance." I refuse to call these people "actors" or "models" they are neither. They are "performers" like a trained seal, throw them a fish (money) and they perform. You are not this person's friend, you are her "customer." My guess is that someday one of these people is going to really screw someone over with this Snapchat BS, and they are going to get reported to the IRS. If you charge for a service, regardless of how you are paid, it's taxable income. I can't wait!!!
     
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  5. zip6331

    zip6331 Guest

    ^
    Well and beautifully said.
     
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  6. what does sex lead to? that is the question.
     
  7. RiseWithHope

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    Either a complete relationship between the two or to hell for both of you.
     
  8. vulture175

    vulture175 Fapstronaut

    very informative post. this guy nailed it. sex makes people stupid including me. selling sex is a good idea to make money. some people open a studio, probably 5 to 10 rooms, each girl works in a room decorated nicely and provided with a pc. girls get half money, providers get half. tough job eh

    and more importantly, remember this, the feeling we feel to the cam girls is not real, even if it's genuine, it is still a relationship between a provider and a client. This misunderstanding exists not 0only in sex industry, but in overall business world. the more love you get from a cam girl, the more emptiness you get in real life, at least for me, because at the end of the day, she isn't there with you. you are again all alone.

    @yukon : sex is a part of love. you are unable to love some one without sexual attraction. what i mean about sexual attraction is "sex" (gender), for example, if you are straight, you can't feel love to another straight guy, but you can feel love to any other straight girls.
     
  9. Themadfapper

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    WTF??? Did you read what you posted? I've had plenty of sexual attraction without love, and I've had love with no sexual attraction. In ancient Greek philosophy, they said brotherly love was greater than the love between a man and a woman. That is the real love, and sexual attraction isn't a part of it. Sexual attraction tends to be selfish and often gets twisted it's not a requirement of love and can potentially damage love.
     
  10. zip6331

    zip6331 Guest

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    I agree with you that sexual attraction and love have very little to do with each other. It's one of the BIGGEST MISTAKES that porn addicts make, and one the porn industry thrives on, especially on social media. Some of the "perfs" are very skilled at playing that hustle to the max. If you can get a girl to "follow" you on Twitter, especially one who plays hard to get, when she does follow you, why of course she loves you. She'll "love" you even more if you buy all of her stuff. The only sex you're getting is by your own hand. Being somewhat frugal saved me a lot of money, but didn't stop me from doing some really dumbass stuff to get her attention. It was one last stupid thing and finding NoFap, that finally woke me up, and I'm still working it everyday.
     
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  11. Don Gately

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    This is terribly sad and I can totally relate. Really glad you're finding yourself, even if the progress feels slow. Being here is a good sign.
     
  12. Don Gately

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    There's an honest dude who's making progress.
     
  13. vulture175

    vulture175 Fapstronaut

    @Themadfapper : what i mean is love between two opposite sex. a man and a woman. love exists if their relationship has enough 3 factors:
    - emotional : both understand each other's feeling.
    - mental : both share the lack of each other. she has what he doesn't have, he has what she doesn't have
    - physical : sexual attraction
    without sex we call it "friendship" as you called "brotherly love"
     
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  14. MetalFapper

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    I still disagree. You can most certainly love someone without having sex or sexual attraction be part of the equation. Think siblings, family members, a childhood friend (this could be of the opposite sex), etc. But I do see what you are saying.
     
  15. vulture175

    vulture175 Fapstronaut

    @MetalFapper : man words have their limits. i don't know how to clarify this misunderstanding :D
     

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