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Porn addict trucker killed girl aged 20

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by tacomanarrows, Sep 15, 2016.

  1. Themadfapper

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    People get angry, and rightfully so, at someone who offers drugs to a recovering junkie. Trying to tempt a junkie back into a self-destructive habit is looked down upon, and someone who does this will be despised and hated by families and friends of the one being tempted. This person is a predatory piece of garbage who preys on people's weaknesses and mental illnesses for financial gain.

    Why not hate porn performer as well? Do Jewish people try to understand how the holocaust felt for the Nazi? Do the Jewish survivors feel sorry for the Nazi and realize the Nazi are actually good people, and how slaughtering people must have made the Nazi feel really bad? I'm sure the evil get the just reward for their deeds, but it's not the place of the victim to sympathize with these people. These people are filth who are peddling poison that is a cancer to the soul.
     
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  2. Star Lord

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    What are you on?
    The Nazi killed approx 11 million people, women children and men. If that's the definition of good people, then I must be an alien. If the Nazi were truly good people they would have all gladly refused to do Hitler's bidding and died for morality.
     
  3. idclip

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    It looks like you're prone to put all the eggs into one basket, but if hating on porn performers helps you to overcome your challenges I won't stop your hate, as long as it is confined within yourself.

    However, mind, the hate attracts the hate.

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  4. zip6331

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    ^
    I would like to live in the world you describe, I really would. IMO, anyone who profits off the weaknesses of others is not worthy of my tolerance or charity. In the end, the vast majority of these people come to an unpleasant end, brought on by their own weakneses, and addictions. As a recovering member of AA for 34 years, the only thing I hope is that there is a place like NoFap for them. Other than that, Bon Chance!!!
     
  5. Star Lord

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    When you think about it though, everyone profits off the weakness of others in every area of life. Bankers profit off poor people taking out loans. Psychologists profit off desperate people seeking help. Politicians profit off peoples hard work, forced to pay taxes.
    It happens everywhere, it's just they are all norms of everyday life.
    Porn is a outcast to this rule so it's less accepted.
     
  6. Themadfapper

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    Reading comprehension?
     
  7. Themadfapper

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    And many people despise bankers and the whole system. Psychologists offer help! Big difference between that and someone peddling smut which is not beneficial in any way and has no positive side to it. Farmers grow food, but we need it to live. Porn, on the other hand, is like illegal drugs which have no benefit they just ruin people's lives. People sometimes spending loads of cash for something that is slowing kill them and ruining their lives.
     
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  8. Star Lord

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    Why hate the performer though?
    And you can't say they profit off of people's loneliness yada yada. Addictions are the doing of the mind of the addicted.
    Not the substance of the addiction.

    For example, 2 people eat chocolate, one becomes addicted the other does not.
    The addicted person can't blame the chocolate. The addicted person had to blame themselves for being addicted. It's a result of their own brains wiring.

    So same goes to porn, people like us get addicted...and other people do not. But I don't blame the person on screen for my addiction, I watched, then watched again and again because my brain was telling me to. The performer wasn't saying after each video "now tomorrow you will watch again". I was making that choice.

    Porn addiction is just the same as any other. The beginning starts in our brain.
    Addicts will never blame themselves unless they believe they are addicts.
    Gambling addiction is another one. The gambler will blame the game which is based on pure chance and odds etc for losing but won't blame themselves for not knowing when to stop.

    I don't blame the performers that I've seen in the 10,000s of videos I've watched for my addiction....I blame myself. Because I didn't know when to stop...I let myself carry on.

    Why cant you understand this.
     
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  9. Themadfapper

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    ^ I never said you are not to blame or that you should not take responsibility. In my experience, lots of junkies are very selfish people, and they are responsible for taking the drugs they take, but that doesn't make the guy who waves a bag of coke under a former junkies nose to get another customer less of a deplorable scumbag.

    ' In my experience' working in the sex industry, most of these girls are scumbags. They brag about taking advantage of older often senile, imbalanced men and how much money they scammed out of a guy. If they could get a guy to hand over his life savings they would brag about that, and then tell him to fuck off once he is broke. To take advantage of a mentally disturbed senior citizen like that, to play on his loneliness and misplaced affection for women, as well as all the cock teasing and manipulation, is disgusting. And yes they tell you to come back, as well as lead the guy on and tell any lie not matter how sickening in order to get money out of the guy as well as have guys intimidate and possibly extort rob customers as well. They look around the club looking for a mentally imbalanced desperate guy to take advantage of and to do emotional , financial and possibly physical harm to. Even the girls who are not complete sociopaths are still there to manipulate people and steal from them playing with their feelings of loneliness and attraction to women. And rest assured they despise and spit on the customers who give them their money. These people manipulate others personal deep seated feelings on a daily basis as their job and don't give it any thought whatsoever, and rest assured lying comes naturally to them.

    Warning major triggers *****
    I'm gonna try and keep this not too graphic, but a girl will come up to some young guy start jacking him off and either ask for 100$ to finish or she will be telling him how the guy is her bitch [ femdom, cuckold] and things he should do including giving her money. They will do every disgusting depraved thing they can to get the maximum amount of cash from you. There are plenty of porn videos where the porn performer does the very thing you said they don't do, which is " tell the viewers to keep watching their videos, " tomorrow you will watch again" some will tell you to get addicted to them to jerk off on a schedule. To spend all your money on them. Some say porn is a form of cuckolding and a lot of the psychological damaging aspects of it are found in porn users and many will manipulate this in the form of humiliation and other perversions to get your money. Those things I mentioned that went on in clubs [strip, lap dance] now we are seeing them online as well. As Zip has mentioned they do this on twitter and various other sites taking advantage of mentally ill people like us porn/sex addicts. And just to reiterate these girls are not clever what they are is morally reprehensible often just copying what they have seen others do, and doing what they have been doing their whole lives which is looking for soft targets and to prey on loneliness and sex addictions that are already present using there fake tits, asses, makeup, plastic surgeries [llusions] to take advantage of damaged men, and to further damage them.


    I also don't agree that some are not harmed by porn. This whole society is harmed by porn right from childhood and sex-obsessed teenagers a robbed of so much due to an unhealthy obsession with sex pushed upon them by society. Sometimes this involves masturbation, often times it's an unhealthy obsession with the opposite sex. Those who are deeply scared by this are preyed upon by those sex workers I previously described.

    I know I'm responsible for my actions, but I still despise those who corrupt society and harm others. And no I would not be in this position if it wasn't for those scumbags. For an example, if someone forced you to take Cocaine or severely pressured you into it. The things you do after are still your responsibility, but you probably would not struggling with these problems if it wasn't for that piece of garbage who got you hooked.

    P.S
    You read my earlier post wrong or I wasn't clear with what I wrote. I didn't say or mean to say they were good guys I was using it as an analogy to porn and this philosophy being peddled here where it's forgive and forget and they are all really good people [ good guys]

    P.S
    Sorry for the lengthy rant. I try to be succinct but I'm not very good at it.


    Also, this isn't all women of course, but this is my experience in the sex industry. Then you have the whole pimp ho thing which is mind boggling sickening. These women are often disgusting creatures who have a fervent hatred of men, but they worship their pimps and are often slaves to these deplorable men who they give sometimes all of their earnings to in return for physical and emotional abuse.
     
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  10. zip6331

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    Thank you for speaking out on this matter in a very honest and forceful manner. I am here to seek help with a porn crush issue as actual PMO is not a real concern right now for medical reasons. I'll bet every guy in these forums has been hustled by a woman at sometime in their lives, and not necessarily a prostitute, stripper, or porn hustler. I know through my own experience after going into a diner in Vegas at 5am off the Strip one morning and eavesdropping on a group of 5-6 hookers laughing and joking about the "johns" they'd serviced. One girl was a well known porn star and I was surprised to actually see her in the group, though I'd heard she was "escorting." For all her supposed sweet BS on Twitter, she had mouth right out of a barnyard, and was loaded. I agree that these women are predators, and whatever their reasons, it's not my concern. This one perf, constantly Tweeted about her luxurious lifestyle, driving around in her Mercedes, sunning by her private pool, at the spa, the gym, and all night parties. Just buy her Snapchats, and send her gifts off her Amazon Wish list, and she'll "spoil" you. Don't guys get how she pays for all this? Damn, I went to Target today to shop, and saw at least five girls that were as pretty. In the end porn destroys lives. Don't mean to be harsh, but it not their lives I'm concerned about, it's mine and the folks in here.
     
  11. idclip

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    Except that they don't "profit off the weakness of others". They give people what they want.

    You said it earlier:
    If we blame them for their life choice, we might as well blame nature for giving us sugar, because that may make us diabetics.

    We, ourselves, are the final responsible for anything that happens to ourselves.

    My grandmother used to tell me "we are our own worst enemy".
     
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  13. zip6331

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    Hey All, I wanted to share this with all of you, because of how I feel it is very relative to our conversation. This was posted to the webcam site of a woman that over 10-12 years ago was a rising star in the porn biz. For whatever reason, I suspect some bad things happened, she bailed out. However, she never lost her "hustler genes" and after a while has been active on social media for the last few years. Apparently, this guy caught on to the scam, and spared no one. I remembered her from over 10 years ago, and IMO when you start to see how these "perfs" are so proficient at the hustle, and how they take advantage of guys, it just makes me very angry. Make no mistake the porn business has no concern for you, your family, or your welfare. They are not producing a socially beneficial product, they are mostly predators out for a buck. When you deny them your money, you deny them validity.
    Oh AAHoneyBear,
    "You are too trusting for an Aussie. You don't know the ability of the porn world girls here. You and topdawg are such tools. She's playing you morons for your gifts and money.She's a 30 year old woman with children. But you losers always post 12 year old pics of an 18-19 yr old Angel and c*** all over yourselves spewing your love for her. She never posts pictures worth money now. And she will never be nude. That would cost her her job. Pathetic, you have bizarre worship of something that does not exist any longer.It's like the guys who beat off to pics of 1950's movie stars and fantasize they are still like that--lol. Besides, she just plays u for gifts. That wish list is for her, her kids and her boyfriend. She probably makes more a year than you do. Don't buy her BS. She's pulling in 60K minimum. I like coming on and watching all the dopes throw money at her in their pathetic attempt at getting attention. I love the "We have to support her!" lol Support her in what? She's flashing herself around on a cam. Takes no talent. She was outstanding in her day, now its just a parody of the past and you all are characters in a moneymaking endeavor.
     
  14. idclip

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    I don't understand how the post of someone accusing another person of questionable behaviour is relevant to the discussion.
    Furthermore, you can't put all the eggs into one basket: everyone is different and not all performers are the same.

    It looks like the purpose of this topic has become to prove that P performers are inherently evil, disregarding that if we have a P problem, we are the primary cause.
     
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  15. Star Lord

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    This is exactly my thinking. It's immensely generalistic and judgemental to assume all are the same.
    They aren't all junkies or scam artists. Some of them are just regular people in a job (and no matter what anyone thinks it's still a job) that pays their bills and allows them to do what they want in life on their days off.

    Here is the definition of the word job...
    Job
    dʒɒb/
    noun
    1. 1.
      a paid position of regular employment.
      "the scheme could create 200 jobs"
      synonyms: position of employment, position,post, situation, place, appointment,posting, placement, day job;More

    2. 2.
      a task or piece of work, especially one that is paid.
      "she wants to be left alone to get on with the job"
      synonyms: task, piece of work, assignment,project;More
    The job someone does isn't always what defines them.
    Obviously there are a percentage of people who are defined by their job but not all.
    Also media will portray people based on negative information so we don't hear any good news about popular people.
    Why can't everyone accept that we are to blame for our addictions, not the pornstars.
     
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  16. Themadfapper

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    I don't think anyone said porn performers were born evil? I think acts of greed, lying, and using sex to make money corrupts people and makes them evil.

    No one ever said we are not responsible for our own actions. Are drug users responsible for their own actions? of course! However, drug pushers and suppliers like Pablo Escobar are still prosecuted by the law because what they do is considered harmful to society.
     
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  17. zip6331

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    ^
    IMO no one is born evil. One of the things about social media is how effectively some of these perfs have created a narrative that includes their actual lives before porn and their lives now. They have to be smart enough to know that once that guy in CA released their real names, DOB's, and where they were from a few years ago, that it wouldn't take much effort using Google to gain more information. Pretty damn foolish for someone to put their family or themselves at risk like that. My point is this, this guy made a very good point exposing this woman for the hustler and con artist she is. If some guy wants to relive a fantasy involving someone he drooled over 10-12 years ago, that's his business. I was never drawn into any real scams, but truthfully, I did buy a few gifts of small value, and after I received no thanks or recognition I simply stopped. It was fun but I guess I'm not that foolish. I'm not saying that when I was in the military I never paid for sex, but it would be a cold day in Hell before I'd give give some "porn perf" $1K in Vegas for an hour. Also, $100 for a Snapchat that goes "poof" in 24 hours for something I could watch for free on a tube site. Screw them!!! In the end, it was medical, and money that turned me off, and it was Nofap that finally got me free of the porn crush. I do get tempted sometimes, but I just come here instead.
     
  18. idclip

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    I'm sorry but I disagree, therefore:

    I don't see the connection with P performers.

    By your reasoning, a mother without education from low social extraction who end up being dumped by an unloving husband and father of her children, would decide to be evil if she resorted to prostitution, or any other sexual activity, to feed her beloved.
    I'm sorry, but I strongly disagree. The choice of this hypothetical mother might be questionable, I'll concede this, but I won't consider her evil just because of the job she chose: that would be prejudice, and I think it would be better to don't have any, if possible.

    Then again:
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