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Female addiction from men's perspective

Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by September, Jul 24, 2016.

  1. September

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    I have some questions in my mind to understand the addiction. I know that men get excited about women explicit pictures. It is the source of dopamine. But what would be the same for women? Actually I can't imagine being excited from nude men's pictures. That's not for me and most of the women.

    Yet I would get excited of my photo being extremely attractive for men. So that's look like the same addiction on the female side. I mean here addiction to erotic pictures of women.

    Another question. What would be your reaction if you (husbands) find out your precious wife is addicted to nude selfies posting it on various sites trying to get attention from men, addicted to likes, compliments and things like that?

    Ok, she promises to stop, but after a year of struggling you don't know for sure if that has stopped as it's a secret. What are your thoughts?
    Other than that she is extremely loving and sensitive to your needs. But when you close your eyes to have some sleep these images and other men's compliments pop up in your head and you have nightmares.

    I just want to know this from men's perspective. I think that would help me.
    PS: my first post here, I'm not a native speaker.
     
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  2. mlang284

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    I think I would have a serious talk with her and help her to find as many sources of help as possible in terms of her comfort level - this community is a start. Maybe she could get an accountability partner, e.g., another lady who's going through something similar.
    Honestly, I can relate a little (in terms of craving attention, kind words, etc. at times) but not a lot in terms of posting photos and getting likes.
    I imagine there are more women than some would think who are addicted to watching not photos of men, but "trigger" scenes with couples, for example. And I think women who do the video cam would certainly find help and support here in leaving that behind.
    And I agree that in the detox process, such images, etc., will pop up at any time, although they subside as one continues.

    What is your native language? If I am studying it, I would be glad to reply in that language too, although your English is excellent.
     
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  3. Ikindaknew

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    first, there is a lot of women addicted to porn that were victim of abuse in their past. It screwed up their mind ,and they have had issues with sex ever since...

    also, there is porn genres right now that try to cater to the women.

    And as I guy, If my wife was posting selfies, I would be very pissed. it may be ok for some "open" couples, but certainly not the norm...I wouldn't want my wife advertizing her features, I'm protective and jealous...she my preciousssssss
     
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  4. September

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    Thank you so much for the answer!!! Actually I would understand that trigger from scenes with couples. May be he imagines us, I would...
    But what I'm struggling with is images of women, other women beautiful and ....I will not describe not to trigger anyone. I totaly don't understand this affection.

    I've been questioning myself what does it look like on the female side? And what would provide the same dopamine...I would say that would be the same attention from other men that PA spouse provides to those women.

    I suppose their(girls on the pics) behaivor is also addictive and destructive to them.
    Thanks for suggestion! I would like to stay anonymous not telling the language(may be later), just forgive my mistakes.

    The problem is these images pop up in my mind though I'm not snooping just notice sometimes. I want to forget them. I sometimes want to get drunk....I hate desperatly any nudity and provacation since the discovery.
    Am I still showing signs of PTSD?
     
  5. September

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    You are right! Thanks for the reply!
    I have answered earlier. Pls have a look!

    I may understand what porn is providing and couples images. I don't understand other women nude pics. Pls see above.

    PS: I can see now that there are tons of such content(after looking at husbands flickr account) and I suppose not only single women do that. So looks like the same addiction on the flip side. And quite accepted by the society.
    Whereas it's ridiculos for the guy to post tons of nude selfies for women attention. It would be recognised as a desease not as "you are woman you are beautiful and so on...."
     
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  6. mlang284

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    Believe me, you are not alone in terms of images popping up in any place, any situation. The opposition is very tricky and it will try anything. It's frustrating but we accept it's going to happen and the strategies we accumulate help us to bypass at least the less challenging times.
    Yes, women can be addicted, as men can be - the responses, triggers, etc. may be different from person to person, but the point is that we need help and we search it out through prayer and the community
    I think we also recognize when we have a potentially really challenging space of time ahead, going for walks, writing an encouraging post here, etc.
    No problem about the language - you're doing great, and please do what you most feel comfortable with in terms of sharing.
     
  7. September

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    Thank you! At least my English has improved due to lack of resources in my language....:)
     
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  8. mlang284

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    You're really doing great with your posts! Who knows, I may be studying your native language :) but anyway, you're expressing yourself extremely well.
    I think staying close to the forums and positive comments will lower the frustration and any thoughts of getting drunk to numb yourself to the struggle.
    It has helped me to have a counter - you can easily set one up, and as you view each of your posts, you can see exactly how far you've been free.
     
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  9. September

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    Yes, both men and women have sexual addictions. Just my assumption is that men would be less sensitive, but may be more angry in their reactions to the SO's addiction.
    Actually I want to behaive more like a man in this situation, be stronger, not to stigmitize myself with "not beautifull enough, not sexy enough", feeling like a stupid doormat. I hate seeing myself crying and in self pity mode. Well, at least I want to get drunk...as usually men in such situations do :) Not a progress I wanted to achive.
     
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  10. mlang284

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    Sometimes crying is letting the pain flow out and that is not bad at all. Sometimes I am also in self-pity mode too, and for me, it's not a question of "snap out of it"...sometimes I'm just exhausted and need to finish the day early and get a fresh start.
    I think the response to PMO on the part of the significant other surely depends on the person and the closeness of the relationship, among other factors. If the SO were willing to admit they needed help, I'd do all I could to be supportive - but they need to make that initial realization first, from a moment of grace, from intervention, whatever it takes.
     
  11. larrylarrylarry

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    I used to be addicted to Porn, no more since I quit on 7/12/2016; looking in retrospect, and knowing what I know now, I can see how that happened.

    Back in my Porn days I also used to look at sites where females would post pics of themselves naked and guys would comment on them (r/gonewild), and then more (r/tributeme). I can see how that could be addictive to the women.

    And the guys' reaction? Well some of them like it and encourage it, since some of the photos were taken by the women's SO(s), the cuckold phenomenon. Knowing what I know now, it's probably fueled by porn addiction (hocd style).

    Now, if the SO didn't know, I can see how that would be upsetting. Similar reaction to the reaction that wives and girfriends of porn addicts have "How can he do that to me?", you can read those reaction in the forum here of women and realtionships.

    Addictions are addictions. Ever since I realized that I had a Porn addiction I started reading about NoFap and also reading about Addictions in general, and last week I also started going to SMART recovery meeting (meeting for people recovering from any type of addiction).

    I wish you all the best in your recovery from your addiction, NoFap is a good place to be.
     
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  12. Ikindaknew

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    Check this video out!

     
  13. MrBigA

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    It's my understand that from a report put out by a popular naughty movie hub that women acount for about 25% of all searches.... with lesbian porn being their most common search... followed gay porn.... That's about my wealth of knowledge on the subject.

    In my camming days, I was asked several times 'how would you feel if you were dating a camgirl'? And, at the time anyway.... I seriously didn't think it would bother me. I still don't think it would... there's a seperation there. I understand it's just business.... I was never one of those guys that crossed the line and became infatuated or 'fell in love' with them like what happens so often.... there's nothing there. No touching, no meeting... no fucking. To me, i always thought that, fuck it... if she had all those guys lusting after my mrs, and she's only doing it for the money and was at home with me every night, then what would it matter?


    I honestly think irt wouldn't bother me....



    although, you don't really know untill you are in that situation.



    Just my thought on the subject.....
     
  14. September

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    Thank you! I know about women's reactions. I have read too many as now it seems that every once happily married woman in the word is crying over her SO's P addiction or will be crying in 5-10 years.

    That's why I wanted to know that from men's perspective and if husbands suffer from things like that too.

    One question about that nude pics: once a person quits P addiction will he be able not to look at them? at least just scroll down if it's popping up somewhere, not going to the source of the picture to see the whole collection?
     
  15. MrBigA

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    i dunno, we'll have to cross that bridge when we get there... I certainly can't look at them at the moment, jesus christ, today was bad enough without any stimulus lol I guess, it mifght be better to lay off them for quite some time, it's just tempting you back down that slippery road again.../ don't get me wrong, i've been down the drug hole before... I know there are times where i say to myself... just this one little time, it's not gonna hurt. And for me, it never does. I can 'treat myself' to awee night here and there... and i never go back full time... and that's been over a decade now.
     
  16. LetsGetBigGODDAMMIT

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    I would dump her instantly.
     
  17. Jilloy

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    It's one things being addicted to P or pleasuring yourself but a completely other thing to act upon it. I am sure I,as the husband, would want a break-up.
     
  18. For me my reaction would depend on the circumstances which lead up to finding out about my wife's addiction. Did she disclose this information or did she keep it a secret only to have me find out about it on my own?

    If it's the former then I would feel shocked, frustrated, but appreciative for her honesty. Of course the "why" question would be rattling around in my head and I would ask her questions so I could better understand her addiction and why she feels the need to post these selfies and get this attention from other men.

    If the circumstance were one where I found out about it on my own because she's kept it secretive, then I would feel shocked, angered, and betrayed. It would make me question our entire relationship and my mind would be flooded with "what else isn't she telling me?! Is she meeting these men? Has she had sex with them? How can I trust what she says?!"
     
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  19. ArtisticLiving

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    One of my best friends and a former lover had issues with sending selfies and addiction - for her, the rush was all about being desired. Even the really out of control dangerous stuff she did was all related to that same idea - is she desired enough that someone would betray or risk their freedom, possessions and even life to be with her. Not too terribly different from what my need to feel loved has driven me to in the past.

    As to wives and partners, once upon a time, anything that threatened my self-image of how my life should be was to be attacked - and my partner or wife was under the same scrutiny. Nowadays, I am in a polyamorous marriage, and I am fiercely protective of my wife, and so her images that are on-line (because we all need profile pics and some social networks want nudes) are ones that I make sure protect her anonymity - most are images I've taken, or where I had another photographer i trust shoot her.

    Jealousy can be an issue, but here's the thing - my jealousy is on my side of the street and is not her stuff to deal with. And that is true the other way around too. The key is to listen to it, and make adjustments. We used to play when I would travel, but I was surprised to find out I was extremely jealous when i was thousands of miles away, and I had to listen to it to learn that it comes from my need to be available to protect her, and I can't do that while traveling. So we made changes and date others only when I'm in town - like any feeling, they can be guides to help us know ourselves and each other better.

    My wife and I don't have any secrets and that helps things work for us. I know what and where her images are, and can log onto her account on such sites, and she can do the same for mine.

    The interesting thing is that while we've done all of this to be open and enjoy others, neither of us has really dated anyone in the last few years since we'd rather be with each other.
     
  20. @September:
    I would say(from my experience) an addiction is an addiction.And the concept of sexuality and all related fantasies are extremely dangerous if they are practised virtually and in an uncontrolled quantum.posting pics ,videos and other explicit are just the escalation of that addiction and it will just increase gradually and to extremism.you can read thousands of inferences here on NoFap!And all other things like lying,hiding,cheating,mistrust,unfaithfulness start in parallel.
    And to leave this addiction is damn hard coz it's related to nature's most basic instinct-progeny!And no one can escape from that.so please stop all that as you knew you are addicted and is causing problems in your life.its worth doing.
    God bless you.:):)
     

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