some amazing tricks that cancels my urges

You gotta get serious about abstaining from porn if you want to beat this man..

Some people do choose to fap during a reboot and just stay away from porn.. but you really can't watch porn, fap to "nothing" and expect to get results and heal.

I would highly recommend trying no porn at all for a month then reevaluating what else you want from NoFap! Good luck man

 

Either you are trolling, or very ignorant. Sorry bro, but porn itself is 100x worse than masturbating (not that I encourage either). You are flooding your brain with "dopamine" by watching porn and not getting it over and done with. This is the worst thing you can possibly do. Dopamine is far more complex and advanced than you make it out to be. Our neurotransmitters don't work as how you described at all.

 

Come on guys!
He talked about "some amazing tricks that helped him"....HIM!!!
This is no advice to someone.
I personally want to hear about different attempts and experiences.

If you feel that you could easily slip by the slightest exposure of porn, you wouldnt take his experience as an advice anyway.
So whats the point here?

 

People could try it out anyway and if you read it you have to admit that for a good part, the things are nonsensical. I mean he is still watching porn and masturbating, just seperatly, come on.

 

I took it more like this: Looking at porn---seeing it with a different mindset----seeing how ridicilous it is-----and closing the tab. I dont think that you can get a dopamin kick
with a mindset like this.If he meant watching porn with a boner for a longer period of time than a few seconds than i would agree with you.But this would make no sense.

 

Reread then:"2. i allow myself to watch anything that i want (i also work on computer).
beautiful women. even porn." - the_big_o It doesn't matter what mindset you have as long as the pathways exist and as long as the are strong, you will get a dopamine kick.

 

It isn't about slipping when you're exposed to porn, but the damage porn does even without masturbating. He's not just expressing what works for him, but is spreading false information. He is making clear and scientific statements that porn does not do harm unless you ejaculate, which is false. I don't want him or anyone else on the forum to hurt themselves using this method. It is undoubtedly causing him further harm, which is why we had to speak up.

 

If we want to be picky, the fact that porn is harmful is absolutely relative, just like anything else.

I think you (not just you Henryk but everyone), should be less judgemental towards his choice, and if you really want to judge, I think it would be a good idea to start with the way the topic was set up.

Are we here to get better, and be better beings, or to point our finger to judge or accuse?

 

I stand by what I said here. No judgement from me, my goals are different to other people's. People would say that my reboot isn't perfect but who cares about that other than me?

The thread title says "cancels my urges" but people will look at this as advice (if it worked for him it might work for me) especially if they are struggling with urges (we all know how strong those urges can be sometimes).

We are a community to support each other through our journeys. I don't really care about what the OP does but part of being a community is to look out for people that will be potentially vulnerable, who will come here looking for support when they're dealing with urges. They then find someone sharing their amazing tricks which include using porn and MO and then justify that as fact by misquoting YBOP. I am sure that this thread could potentially trigger a relapse if someone was in a vulnerable mind-set which was my main reason for posting something. I just think that a little clarity in the first post would be very helpful.

 

To clarify: you were probably the only one I wasn't referring to, as yours was the reply that I agreed with the most.

 

The only one being picky here is you. OP shared his opinions and since he made a thread for it he must have wanted to get reactions.
We all gave him our opinions and shared our knowledge/experiences with him.

It doesn't matter if you don't like that, as you state your opinions, we state ours, live with it.

OP wrote potentially harmful advices and newcomers may be inclined to do that stuff.

If you can't understand that, then there is no further need for talking as we disagree on all accounts.

It's kind of hypocritical to tell us not to judge someone when you judge us.

 

I pray that no one takes your advice because it's terrible. It's going to keep people addicted and it's also going to give them an excuse to continue with their addiction

 

Judgement.

There are ways and ways of "giving" opinions, one of which is sharing, because none likes opinions shoved down their throats

This is an opinion.

Therefore none is obliged to understand (reads agree) with anyone.

I think you sound quite aggressive for someone who wants to help and have a positive impact, regardless (and regardless of this judgement) tell me where else I judged anyone in this thread, please.

 

I don't think "judgemental" is the right word. I'm not looking down on him or pointing fingers. What exactly am I accusing him of? "Opinion" also isn't the right word, since he is trying to explain to us how our neurotransmitters work. That's not an opinion. It looks to me as if you're throwing in random words in your sentences.

 

i can attest to this. but not only with porn but what i call a 'porn studio of the mind'. really you have to kill the dopamine loop. the addict in you will find another way to get it out. If its something like porn or unhealthy fantasies, it's still going to lead to isolation, and eventually PMO

 

Agreed. Porn or fantasizing creates a separate world where you can express your sexuality. That's what isolates us from the real world.

 

I opened this topic and I saw a bunch of people overwhelming OP with replies that, in the best case, weren't supportive.

It is! It's highly relative how said neurotransmitters work, since everything, ultimately, depends by the subject's mood, therefore why opinion.

Definitely not. Perhaps you don't understand.