Addicted to Masturbation only

So you can recover fully and faster. Anyways if you go for example 90 days and the start masturbating you will fall into habits like i did But this is the problem im having porn is easy to quit i dont need porn its masturbating

 

There is no science to this. It's all anecdotal and anecdotally people who cut out both seem to reboot faster. Porn is the underlying problem. Certainly people with PIED need to cease masturbation for a while (at least early in their reboot) simply because they aren't able to masturbate without porn - at least initially.

Orgasm is the end product of our porn addiction. It floods the brain with massive rushes of dopamine. There is no other biological process that generates such a big hit and it reinforces our porn use (which also releases dopamine). The problem is that for most of us is that masturbation is so heavily wired in with porn that for many it's practically impossible to break the neural connections to porn unless you cease masturbation for a while. Some people do choose to continue masturbating (it's your decision) but be vary wary of fantasising during it, which will be just reinforcing those neural pathways. It's also been noted in some people that masturbation can trigger a relapse back to porn. Those neural connections are really strong and the brain will possibly start seeking another hit of dopamine.

The way I see it, many of us masturbated to sexual exhaustion. Our brains were crying out for a rest and hard mode gives our bodies a good rest to fully recover. I was like you - cravings were mainly masturbation rather than porn (I actually had very few porn cravings but I realise that my masturbation cravings were actually probably PMO cravings. I now see masturbation as a pretty futile exercise, whilst it's healthy (if not done excessively) I actually am feeling pretty little interest for it now. To me, it's just a waste of energy.

More info:

http://yourbrainonporn.com/reboot_your_brain

PS: according to YBOP, MO isn't a relapse

 

Abstaining from masturbation , in my opinion, is harder than abstaining from watching porn. You should not do any of them if your trying to progress and reboot faster but have some hobbies to keep your mind off of any sexual thoughts or fantasies that will come around... since your mind plays a major role in your urges as well as your environment. always remember your "specific goal"! write it down somewhere and hang it up so you can always have it on your mind. keep it up ! stay strong !

 

Well it's all what your goal is I guess as to whether you call it a relapse. YBOP says that only rule really is to not use porn so as long as you didn't use porn then it's not really a relapse. Ultimately you are in charge though.

It sounds like you do need a rest. I'm sure porn plays at least some part though as to masturbate excessively you would need some kind of artificial stimulation to get it going. For most people porn and masturbation are tightly linked.

You're absolutely right, all the urges are just dopamine chasing. If you need to release excesses then your body is very capable of taking care of that itself.

 

I feel the same way @kenmonkey123. I don't really have a desire to MO to P, but I'm in a long distance relationship with my gf, and so when I do MO, I'm only fantasizing about being physical with her. I'm sure it's not totally healthy, but perhaps it's better than PMOing?

 

I have the same problem... Quitting P was very easy for me, I quitted it for 3 years now, but MO is a bigger problem but I will manage to beat that too...

 

Definitely @kenmonkey123. I don't want to do it often because I worry that it'll harm my PMO reboot. Yea, all of us can stop MOing for sure guys! At the same time we're guys, and we're physical beings, so we dream of one day being intimate

 

I will put all my and others tactics together and I am determined to win against it forever...

 

First of all quit P... That is the easisest from them all to quit (from PMO)... Than quit M, which will not be so easy, even if you might think that when you quit P is easier to quit M. It is easier but quitting M is very tricky and it takes a lot of hard work on yourself beacuse you have to know everything about harmful effects of M, you have to be sure that you can quit it and you have to get out of your comfort zone and believe you can change yourself because it will be worth it, believe me... When you quit PM, O will fall automatically