Marriage

I don't really classify myself as belonging any particular religion really. I do like a lot of them, including Christianity. How I interpret those teachings is another matter. But philosophically my believes would be a mix of Buddhism and Taoism. The whole goal there is to get rid of ego/self, or association with it. So being selfish would no more be an issue at that point. Don't necessary have to become enlightened either, but in a spiritual state quite close to that.

The way I see it, we are NOT human. It's our flesh that makes us human. But we are not it. It's our association with the body that limits us. In deeper level we are a soul that is inhibiting the body. It's nice to have it or else we would not be able to function in this physical reality. But it's also our jail at the same time. Our soul comes from God, it's essentially a part of the essence of God. Like a seed is part of a larger tree. And by right spiritual practices we can, either in this lifetime or later, wherever we will be by then, to get closer in touch with that part of God in us. And transcend our limited flesh and limited nature, at least partly.

Well I guess it makes sense. If that's the way we look at it then I guess every crap we go through has a meaning; to make us stronger and stimulate growth. You better believe that is is fun, while you're there and it's actually happening in a moment lol. I really hope you won't get to have that fun.

Cheers!

I mean if you want to have children and to have a deeper connection with a woman than just surface level romance you don't have a choice as to marry or not, as a Christian. Well, I guess technically you do still have it tho. But that choice comes with a price of not being able to do those things. Otherwise it would be a sin. No? So IS there REALLY a choice in that case?
But then again, I don't know how closely exactly you follow rules of the Church and of the Bible. There are different Christians out there. I'm sorry, I just assumed you follow those things, cos most Christians I know do.

 

Very interesting
Yeah you assumed right. If I want to experience deep intimacy with a woman and have children, I need to get married to do that. I don't see this as a limiting thing though, I see it as the best option for everyone.

 

Yeah it's really not about rules. It's about what leads to happiness and fulfillment. You can adhere to a rule 'thou shalt not kill' because it is a written rule... But that is ridiculously simplistic.. (Akin to saying though shalt not masturbate...) The bottom line with Christian 'rules' is they are guides to happiness... it makes you miserable to kill someone in very profound ways... Killing or abandoning your children is a similar thing... It's more than 'you broke a rule' it's also more than the perfectly reasonable reason that 'you are hurting someone else' or because you are doing it to chase a short term fleeting illusion (romantic or sexual or whatever)... Because if you truly love God (meaning you love truth goodness and beauty) then you will love yourself and others... to an outsider you will inadvertently appear to live within certain rules. But the rules are not driving your actions... what's driving them is love of reality (rather than illusion...) Love of truth goodness and beauty (rather than the cheap imitation opposites...)

 

@CaptCane I don't understand what love has to do with marriage? Love is a state of being while marriage is a contract.

Yea, that's probably the root of it.

 

By the way I just want to clarify (maybe little bit too late, cos we already had some long discussion here, usually things should be defined at the start) what I mean when I say that I do not believe in marriage. When I say "marriage" I am speaking about contract, especially legally binding one. Not so much about promise or commitment. I'm speaking about legal paperwork as well as the vow at the church in front of with.

Part of the reasons for this line of thinking I have expressed in my posts above. But also partly because I do not feel that government has any god damn business what I call my wife, it's between me and her (and for many people also between God). And I do not need a Church to be a middle man between us and God either. Why would I need a priest as a middle man when I can turn to God directly. They are self proclaimed holy man. That's just the biggest bullshit scam out there.

Sure, I think a pope deserves a great deal of respect and admiration for devoting his whole life to something he really believes in. But there are many devoted Christians like that, that does it in quietude in their own home, not in a hierarchical setting of the Church. So in my eyes his robe and a crown does not make him holier than thou. Nor does any priest. They are just same man like all of us in my eyes.

The purpose of the Church should be to serve as a big advertisement company for God, as well as a place of community where like minded people can meet. Also as a way to help people who need guidance and education about the religion. But it should not have any political power, or any power whatsoever on the people who follow Jesus. It should be a counselor not a judge and not a legal man.

 

When you meet the right person.

 

Marriage is not clever in this day and age. Don't do it.

 

I got married at 21... it wasnt my best decision. I was divorced a year later.

Dont think i was really emotionally mature until 25+

Ill be married this year and ill be 28

But if u find someone who you gravitate to what does it matter. Set a date a few years in the future if ur still together then hell itll probably work.