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WOMEN have been the downfall of me. here's why

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Islanders190, Dec 28, 2016.

  1. Islanders190

    Islanders190 Fapstronaut

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    I first want to say I relapsed twice today on day 39, relapsed yesterday with alcohol day 38 and also ate chocolate alot after being drunk. I went 37 days up until that point with no sweets. I fapped because I was hungover.I'm not sad or anything because I know I can do this. for a year in a half I kept saying I can't get to 30 days with nofap and sobriety from alcohol but these past 38 and 39 days have been my best ever streaks when I look back at 2016 I can say I reached my goal and beyond. also to be honest once I hit 30 days I didn't care about day count because nofap just started becoming a life style.

    now on to why women have been the downfall of me. when I'm chasing girls, obsessing about girls, fantazing about girls who I'll never ever be with,masterbating or edging to pictures of girls,Watching porn all make me less of a MAN.I'm pretty sure there's more that im leaving it out.
    I'm so focused on getting a girl and thinking about girls that I start neglecting other areas of my life and on becoming a better human being. I could be volunteering, going to the gym, enjoying nature, etc. the way my brain is that once I start focusing on getting a girl I get so wrapped up in it that I start getting depressed and fucking up my life because I stop doing things that make me a better person.
    I don't want to make this post any longer than it already is but I'll just give this recent example that basically led me to relapsing yesterday with alcohol on day 38 and today on nofap with day 39.
    those first 30 days were amazing guys music started sounding better, I actually enjoyed being out in nature, eating cleaner, going to the gym,just to name a few. I was still wanting a girl but that went from 0 to 100 once I hit day 30. I wanted a girl so bad I downloaded dating apps like 5 of them and most of the day I'm swiping and messaging girls to get a connection with one.and I did this for the pass week and the depression set in that I had to have liked and messaged girls at at least 200 girls and not one NOT ONE messaged or liked me back other than the scam ones. my inner demon thoughts crept in on how pathetic that is and I'm not a bad guy and I can't get one girl to like me. that led the flood gates of other thoughts that made me feel like shit because I wanted a connection which led me to relaping yesterday with alcohol on day 38 and today relapsing on day 39 on nofap because I was hungover and I still had that fuck it mind-set. all these relapses were just a matter of time once I hit day 30 and I stopped doing what I had been doing and shifted my focus on to getting a girl I opened Pandora's box.
    I don't know what im trying to say maybe I'm just venting I don't hate woman but I realized the minute right after I fapped that they are like poison to me. when I'm focusing on them my life starts falling apart Its like an addiction to girls. my life is so much better when I'm just doing me and not thinking or trying to get a girl.
    this is a huge realization that I have come to today
     
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  2. I Free I

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    This is a great post my brother... trust me, your on the right track of mind. Sometimes in life you have to let things flow to you and through you, just live, be you, love you and achieve what you want out of life. Just reading your post helped me realize certain things in certain areas of my life so I would like to say thank you , keep doing what your doing !
     
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  3. Islanders190

    Islanders190 Fapstronaut

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    I'm glad it helped you i hope this post can save someone on the verge of relapsing also. I never realized that I had an addiction to girls I knew that girls make me want to put a hammer to my head at times but never like an unhealthy addiction to them.I also agree with your post the minute you stop letting life flow to you and you try to control the flow is when your asking for trouble because that's when you let in negative emotions to surface



    QUOTE="Freeee, post: 683360, member: 89948"]This is a great post my brother... trust me, your on the right track of mind. Sometimes in life you have to let things flow to you and through you, just live, be you, love you and achieve what you want out of life. Just reading your post helped me realize certain things in certain areas of my life so I would like to say thank you , keep doing what your doing ![/QUOTE]
     
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  4. dandyman

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    islanders190, thanks man for sharing your insight. although only 7 days in i too was trying to download dating apps today...thankfully my phone is awful and it couldn't. the beauty in many ways about this process is unveiling the moves of the mind seeing how it works against you most of the time by dangling false logic and mirages to satisfy cravings.
    often it takes a 'slip-up' to have these revelations, thanks again for sharing, wishing you all the strength in your reboot.
     
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  5. Islanders190

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    im probably going to butcher this but there's a saying that goes something like faliure is your biggest teacher. it sucks that it takes a slip up or relapse whatever you want to call it to learn from your mistakes but it does. I guess if your looking for loop holes and questioning something just don't do it because it's your addiction trying to outsmart you


     
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  6. You will find a girl eventually. Instead of focussing on the girls, use your energy to become a better you, so that eventually you'll have a hard time deciding what girl you want to be with. Become that alpha male. The best version of you is what awaits. There will always be girls.

    Once you've become that alpha male you will have no problem attracting whatever girl you want.
     
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  7. dandyman

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    yep the addiction wants to perpetuate itself and so hijacks the mind. bloody weird. hope its been a good day
     
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  8. Green_Tea

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    Women themselves are not the problem, it's the attitude one has towards them. Just leave it alone and move on; try not to focus so much on chasing a woman. I know it is difficult because everywhere you look society is reinforcing the supposed "importance" of sex, which will lead to a feeling of incompleteness and inadequacy if one is not having any. Sex does not need to be of great importance unless you prioritize it. I hope things keep improving for you, all the best!
     
  9. NicoRobocop

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    Great Post, we should realize that girls are everywhere and the best way it's not focus on them but on ourselves, on how we perceive ourselves and behave.
    The fapping in itself, I guess was not so bad for you, and let you understood this, there was a lesson inside.
    Im rebooting too, and sometimes I'm not feeling in balance with my emotions I'm still needy due I had girls in my past...
    So we should fight our instincts, grow has a persons and develop a new mindset!
     
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  10. Truth!
     
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  11. IGY

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    When I read this, it reminded me so much of the typical high-speed internet porn behaviour - massive overstimulation driven by a desperate neediness - multiple tabs open, searching through thousands of option until the 'perfect' person or scenario is found.

    Thirty days was way too early to start thinking about a real life relationship. It is so important to reboot to factory settings because, before then, our perceptions are warped by all the masturbation to porn we have done. I suggest: reboot first. :)
     
  12. SuperLulox

    SuperLulox Fapstronaut

    I can really relate to what you are saying but now im on day 22 and im SO horny.
    I have a huge sex Drive, and i cant stop thinking about how to get this or that girl
     
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  13. IGY

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    I am sure you do, not least as a teenager. :rolleyes: But overindulgence for several years requires abstinence to heal the damage.
     
  14. Islanders190

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    I'm not blaming them I take responsibility for my actions and my obsessions over them which is why I mentioned I have an unhealthy addiction to them. I definitely agree with what you said and when I think about it maybe the orgasm is overrated because it's fleeting it only last for 2 maybe 3 seconds ? I don't know I never timed it yet. I got to remember this when I want to look at porn or p subs


    QUOTE="Green_Tea, post: 684499, member: 94119"]Women themselves are not the problem, it's the attitude one has towards them. Just leave it alone and move on; try not to focus so much on chasing a woman. I know it is difficult because everywhere you look society is reinforcing the supposed "importance" of sex, which will lead to a feeling of incompleteness and inadequacy if one is not having any. Sex does not need to be of great importance unless you prioritize it. I hope things keep improving for you, all the best![/QUOTE]
     
  15. Islanders190

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    what got me to sobriety before I stopped focusing on recovery and shifted it to getting a girl is transmuting that sexual energy my brother you have to transmute it creatively. sexual energy is the same as creative energy. and use my relapse as a lesson if you do what I do and focus on girls it's going to possibly fuck with your emotions thus leading you back to porn. take it from me relapsing is not worth it 3 seconds a pleasure isn't worth the tsunami of negative emotions that come right after you come back to reality and realize what you just did



     
  16. Islanders190

    Islanders190 Fapstronaut

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    I probably to need to clarify what I meant when I said women are the downfall of me. that is my unhealthy obsession of women have been the downfall of me


    QUOTE="虎穴に入らずんば虎子を得ず, post: 684533, member: 90694"]Truth![/QUOTE]
     
  17. Islanders190

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    I'm needy to and that desperate energy can be dangerous I once dated a girl years ago who was just as if not more needy than me and that relationship was very toxic.
    I realized also maybe you to but once I start focusing on getting a girl my world starts revolving around that goal which results in me not doing things for me anymore and things to better myself or make the world a better place anymore


     
  18. 4kin The Road

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    Good post. Particularly the 'priority of sex' point.
    By coming to Nofap its surely something we all have had in common at some point.
    Prioritizing sex and therefore the people we want to have sex with i.e women.
    They become too much of a focus and can take over our thinking. Almost colonizing the mind so there is not enough room for us to grow into the people we want to become.
    The job must be to get it back into balance. Most of our energy to go on growing as we want to. The focus on women to decrease to a much healthier level - one which doesn't stop us growing.
     
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