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Is abstaining from PMO an exercise in emasculation?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Geyser, Jun 2, 2014.

  1. Geyser

    Geyser Fapstronaut

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    As I was lying in bed not being able to sleep, as I am fighting my urges, I became spontaneously erect. Something that hasn't been happening much lately. Not being able to stop myself I placed my hand around it. Not to masturbate but just to enjoy the sensation of an erection again. Something I had lost due to pornography.

    Upon placing my hand upon my erect penis I noted it's warmth, it's rigidity, and it's continual throbbing. I could have easily exploded just through my touch, no movement of my hand of any kind, if I would have continued for any decent length of time. However, I was able to see what was happening and stop myself.

    While this is happening, the question above comes to me. Is abstaining from PMO an exercise in emasculation? I think most if not all men would agree that an erection is a very virile thing. Something that provides us with great strength and maybe pride. So I guess what I am asking is: Is our attempt at controlling our urges, and hence our erections, actually zapping the strength we need to fight this battle and win in the first place?

    I'm sorry. I'm not sure this makes any sense at all. This could be the withdrawal talking.

    Anyway, I am thankful for any effort given to this question.

    Thank you so much,
    Geyser
     
  2. Scaramanga

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    I am not following your line of thought at all.
    You say that by abstaining you are actually regaining spontanious erections and youre asking if abstaining emasculates you?
    I would say that the oposite is true.
     
  3. Scaramanga

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    Yes, most men are proud of their ability to get erections, but few men are proud of fapping.
    I know I am proud of not giving in to every urge I get to fap anyways.

    Yes I would say its just withdrawal thinking, keep abstaining
     
  4. Angel Ramirez

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    Getting an erection may be somewhat masculine, although not very much since it doesn't really require much conscious control or willpower. However, not submitting to the temptation to fap does require self-control, discipline and willpower, all masculine traits. So, no, I don't think abstaining from PMO is emasculating.
     
  5. CompleteSeed

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    Having a beard is very masculine yet does require much conscious control or willpower. I wouldn't dis-include erections on this basis, I think the ability to get an erection that is strong and can please a women is a very masculine trait made even more masculine by the masculine traits of not submitting (mentioned by angel) which only helps to improve the masculine trait of achieving erections...so yes yes it's all very masculine continue...
     
  6. Angel Ramirez

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    I live in New York City. There are lots of wimpy guys with very little self control and willpower here and many of them have beards. I'm pretty sure they can get erections too, with or without watching porn. This leads me to think that having a beard or getting an erection doesn't require much self-control or willpower. You don't need to be very masculine to do either of those things. The ability to deny yourself immediate pleasure for the sake of some distant goal or ideal requires much more masculinity.
     
  7. cheekybrah

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    I can agree with you in a way that the denial of sex is essentially emasculating but what you have to remember is that we're denying ourselves
    1. Porn. Porn is not a woman. There is nothing masculine about watching another guy fuck a girl
    2. Masturbation at unhealthy levels. Personally I want to try to go 90 days PMO but I think relieving yourself once a week or so should be perfectly healthy. There is nothing masculine about sitting at home all day touching yourself.

    Having sex is masculine, so go do that.
     
  8. BossTime

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    Abstaining from sex is masculine too.
     
  9. Alexander_D

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    Lol classic rationalization looking for an excuse to relapse.

    Self control and self respect is masculine. It's little boys who cant say no to candy and gorge until sick.

    And dont confuse issues. Breaking the pmo cycle isnt like becoming a eunuch. You get erections all the time; you just have the power to say 'no, not now' to them, because youre master of your domain. And you want to use them in the right way; in mutual pleasure with a woman you love, are committed to and want to start a family with. Finding and keeping that girl takes risks and skills, whereas any old blob can spank one out with virtually no effort.

    The self-love of pmo is all wasted. Literally throwing your real masculinity away.
     
  10. LegoT

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    This! ^

    Today at midnight I'll complete 100 days of PMO abstinence. I feel way more masculine now than when I was engaging in regular PMO. I've had numerous encounters with people where I was acting naturally, but not at all how I would act before my abstinence. I'm far more assertive, confident and aggressive (not in a combative way but just aggressive in pursuing action in different tasks or situations).

    If that's not masculine, then I don't know what is. My beard is also thicker and fuller which is clear proof that abstaining from PMO is more masculine. ;)
     
  11. Geyser

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    Thanks everyone for such great input.

    When this thought occurred to me it made perfect sense in my head and at the time. As I tried to put in into words it made less and less sense.

     
  12. MutatedSeaBass

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    Masculinity can be a moving target. Different cultures see it differently. In Norway for example being a good cook is a masculine trait as cooking was a male responsibility. In the 1950s in the West it was viewed as a female quality. Now it's unisex. The most masculine thing, I can think of, is pleasing a woman with a rock hard erection. Virility is considered among all cultures to be a masculine trait, just as fertility is feminine.
     

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