What were the pain points in your journey?

Pain point:
1: the days after a relapse. Those are the toughest. The forum has been great as far as getting support from others.
2. Flatline: once again, relied on forum for help.

 

The entire fucking journey!

The best help I've found is through prayer and a good AP. I good AP is a priceless gift.

 

Nope, but I'm in better spot than where I was.

 

The point if pain is that you exactly need to rely to yourself.

PMO, depression, fear come because you are always loooking for someone to help you in life, but in fact you must rely on yourself.

 

So you probably do everything yourself right? You've built your own house, catch your own food, built and fix your own car, make your own clothes, educated yourself at your own school, etc., OR did you get help from others with these things?

There's nothing wrong with getting help during tough times. It's actually smarter to reach out first. If help doesn't arrive then you resign yourself to going it alone. Ignoring the smarter route for the harder route is prideful and that always goes before the fall. Plus it's clearly unrealistic as per your life and all of our lives. I mean you came to NoFap for help with your addiction whether that be through support via the forum members or the forums educational material itself.

 

Yes, but there is a difference:

• When you are asking actively for help, this is very good. This is an important social iteraction.
  
• But when you are passively waiting for someone to come along, this is very dangerous.

I'm talking about the second one.

 

Great. Thanks for clarifying your stance. I agree.

 

A distinction also must be made between getting "help" and being "saved."

I often need "help."

What I really want, however, is that someone will "save" me.

I want someone to swoop into my life, clean up everything, and put me in the ideal place.

That will never happen, but there are many, many people who are willing to help me along.

These people will prop me up, support me, and lend me whatever resources I need.

They will also give me advice, which I can follow or not.

Then, I am the one who must take all of this and do the work myself of fixing and changing my circumstances.

 

More so because of relapse anxiety and depression/guilt I would say

 

I relapsed many times. I started falling without porn....fapping to porn only once a week...tried fapping to porn audio only. All ways that I talked myself into fapping, claiming inhad to tame my sexual desire somehow. It's all just the addiction. Don't fap and stay that way. That sexual energy turns from horniness to productivity, charm, motivation, etc. just trust the process.

Every thing you ever wanted from life that you are worried you may never get, is on the other side of this addiction. Once you get through this addiction, your life will get MUCH better. Trust me. If you relapse, be easy on yourself. You'll feel sh*tyy and shameful/guilty but at the same time, the fact that you relapsed and you're upset about it means you're making progress. You no longer fap to porn unaware of how bad it is for your mental health. You know which direction you want to go. That's something to be proud of.

 

Edit: *fapping without porn