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I have the impression that the flatline's getting worse

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Champ39, Jan 9, 2017.

  1. Champ39

    Champ39 Fapstronaut

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    Right I posted here about a month ago about a week or two after entering my flatline (now I understand the term better). I'm on 120 days NoFap now due to PIED (this is my longest stretch without PMO since I started that nasty habit 8 years ago). I've finally got a good stretch (my previous record was 90 dans or so about 3 years ago) due to the fact that I just lost interest in PMO (which at the very least means I'm not going back to it). Now for the first 75-80 days I guess although I still had the PIED problem it was getting better, I was finding women much more attractive, I was approaching them and flirting (something I didn't have the confidence to do in the past) I was having wetdreams, the erections although not as good as they should have been were improving, etc. Then about 40 days ago I started hitting my flatline, first losing the libido and all and right now I feel kind of asexual (which I know I'm not it's due to flatline), and my penis is not sensitive to anything at all right now, it's all shriveled. And now rather than feeling depressed like at the beginning of the flatline I just dont feel like I care about anything at all (my brain tells me I should but I'm just not feeling it). Is this normal? Does this mean I'm getting better from the PMO problem? And although I know it will get better at some point at the moment I feel like this will go on forever, any idea on how long this should continue (although I know no one knows)? Any opinions would be helpful. Thanks.
     
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  2. SnowWhite

    SnowWhite Fapstronaut

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    120 days no orgasm?
     
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  3. Champ39

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    Yes absolutely. No orgasm whatsoever.
     
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  4. Phoenix31213

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    I've experienced something similar during and after periods where I've flatlined. Would you describe this feeling as being emotionally numb? That's how I describe it from my experience, not really depressed or sad, it's almost like a sluggish ability to generate the love hormone, oxytocin, which might be why you may not seem to care about anything. There are ways to increase oxytocin, like hugging people you care about, or if you have a pet, stroke its fur. Maybe try Metta meditation where you try to feel compassion for others. It's a bonding hormone, women release a ton of oxytocin during breastfeeding which helps them bond with their babies. During orgasm a lot oxytocin is released but as many of us have learned the hard way watching porn is not the way to go. It might be that you're brain is trying to tell you "Wait, I'm not releasing oxytocin the crappy way we used to with PMO along with the dopamine rush but we're missing something, maybe we can try to release oxytocin in positive, healthy way without orgasm." There's a book called "The Moral Molecule" by Paul Zak which covers the subject of oxtocin in detail. Or you can watch his Ted Talk here: https://www.ted.com/talks/paul_zak_trust_morality_and_oxytocin
     
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  5. Mankrik

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    Im on day 129 hc no pmo and I have had a flatline for awhile now however getting an erection is no problem and im really sensitive down there its just I am not thinking about sex and I am not getting erections unless im trying to do so. I find girls attractive but the urge to have sex with them isnt really as intense or lustful any more I really want to talk to girls and get to know them - maybe its not a flatline my brains just getting rewired idk. Do you have the urge to bond emotionally with a partner without sex in the picture? This has been how I have felt and I think it means nofap is working for me.
     
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  6. Champ39

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    Yeah I'd say emotionally numb is a good description of how I feel right now. Ok so this is normal then, I'm not the only person to have felt this way. Metta Meditation? I've never heard of it but I'll look it up it may be worth trying. And that TedTalk video should be interesting, I'll watch it mater today or tommorrow when I have time. Thanks for your help!
     
  7. Champ39

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    Had you asked a week ago or son then I'd have said yes, but today no. But it must be a phase, I should be back to a more normal statue sooner or later.
     
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  8. Mankrik

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    Your probably right - highs and lows are normal it should straighten itself out soon.
     
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