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What is so prideful in NoFap if you'll end jacking off on your sheets?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Frühlingstimme, Jan 19, 2017.

  1. Frühlingstimme

    Frühlingstimme Fapstronaut

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  2. If you are truly doing NoFap then you wont end jacking off on your sheets.
     
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  3. @Frühlingstimme Replace the word "jacking" with "jizzing", jacking implies that you do it by using a hand. Because I assume you mean wet dream? No? Because otherwise yea, like the bitch said - jacking off is fapping. Can not happen if you're on nofap. That's kinda the whole point. Or are you saying that we all are doomed to fail and gonna end up jacking off anyways? Which I don't agree with.

    Wet dreams tho, well you can't control them. So if that happens you would know that it's not because lack of will power or discipline. So there isn't really anything to take away from your pride. For me it's about semen retention. I am practicing semen retention for the benefits of energy transmutation. But that's me, for others it might be religious reasons and etcetera.

    I guess I could masturbate once a month then. Cos that's about the time I will have a wet dream anyways - about once every 30 days or so. So might as well do it myself and fully enjoy. Which is probably what I will do once I'm finished with Hard Mode, if I won't have a girlfriend by then. Or I might just hook up for casual sex. Why would one MO when they can just do that and get even more pleasurable experience from it? But right now I am rebooting so I benefit from releasing as little dopomine in my brain as possible and by not exercising those thought and behavior patterns.

    But ultimately there is no point not to MO. Of course unless one can find a way how to stop wet dreams for good. In which case I would ejaculate even less often than once a month. Because of all the sexual energy that I could keep. Which is supposedly possible. I've read that one of the cause for wet dreams are energy imbalances. It is not able to freely flow within the body. Instead it is stored in nerves down there. And once it's too much it is being discharged, kinda like overflown cup. So by practicing sexual Chi energy work maybe I will be able to stop wet dreams from happening.

    Also, a book called The Multi Orgasmic Man by Mantak Chia comes in mind. I've read a little bit of it. In it he talks about how to separate orgasm from ejaculation. And if I could do that I would never ejaculate anyways, what's the point then? Just throwing out and wasting life energy, that's all.
     
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  4. Frühlingstimme

    Frühlingstimme Fapstronaut

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    I used the wrong term, like Shugi mentioned, what I meant was wet dreams, nocturnal emission, ejaculating while asleep.

    I've been browsing the reddit like in old times, and I found a good advice there, I'll do one day at a time. Been reading reports of people who went 15 years without PMO only by doing that.

    Shugi, I'm more of a western medicine guy. I've read medical sites when I got on the Nofap wagon, most of them say is Ok to masturbate, even though my life experience show the opposite, the ultimate resource for me is the yourbrainonporn site, because there are some medical evidence of what PMO does on the life of people like us.

    I pay more attention more to the criticism we get sometimes, that Nofap is scapegoating, and that some successful people do fap sometimes. We can't blame PMO for everything. If my life is not like I think it should be, I'm the one to blame, not fapping alone.

    I didn't expect much answers to this question because it's a question-criticism of Nofap, although I appreciate the answers given until now. And I need to read more in English, sometimes I still use the incorrect words :rolleyes:
     
  5. I personally do not understand all of the complaining that's done about wet dreams on this site. It's like complaining that your eyes produce tears. It's a natural bodily function. Most people who are freaked out about wet dreams are also the people who believe in the myth regarding semen retention despite there being zero scientific or medical data to support their claims. I think most of the people who subscribe to this kind of YouTube new age "eastern" kool-aid do so because they need something to make their Reboot more purposeful or meaningful than it really is. Unfortunately at the same time it makes it more stressful than it needs to be. But if you want to waste your time with it then that's your business.

    If I jizz in my dreams then I thank my body and move on.
     
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  6. I do have a huge problem with allopathic medicine. The system is broken and does more harm to people than good. And most people in charge of the whole thing know this. One of the main, if not THE main, reasons why we still use it is because it makes billions of income every year. I'm not gonna go into details, if you care you can do your own research, all the truth is out there. But basically I think it should be used only a secondary / supplementary method (naturopathic being first) or as an emergency method. I have big distrust and skepticism regarding western medicine. Not so much the science of the details but the system as a whole. But that's me. I'm just saying. You do you. And yea, science is nice. That Chi thing might not make sense to a lot of people. That's fine.
     
  7. TheLoneDanger

    TheLoneDanger Fapstronaut

    This is where I see a misconception in the NoFap lifestyle. Keep in mind, a lot of people are living a PMO-free life because they are addicted to porn, as in porn is ruining their lives. Compare this to alcoholism. People whose lives have been ruined by drinking will clean up their lives by not drinking anymore. That's not to say that there aren't people in this world that drink occasionally. It's even been said that it is reasonable to have a glass of wine every day for those that can manage. So there are also people who occasionally masturbate. Is it healthy for them? Probably not. But is it ruining their lives? No, not if they can manage this without it taking control of them.
     
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  8. Frühlingstimme

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    I liked this point of view. Thank you.

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  9. I wounder if that is healthy for your bodies systems....a serious question.
     
  10. According to Taoist sexual practices it is even more healthy than ejaculation. Because instead of throwing it out in a tissue or condom one keeps the life energy in and uses it to nourish their body. From scientific point of view though, ejaculation might drain person because it contains a lot of needed nutrients from the body. So they are essentially being wasted by ejaculation. If one does not ejaculate sperm is being re-absorbed instead, which is good for the body. Of course the loss of nutrients can be offset with proper diet.

    As far as is separating the reflex of ejaculation itself bad? No. If it's done right it is not. Non-ejaculatory orgasm is simply separating one type of contractions (the pleasurable ones) from another type of contractions (the ones that trigger ejaculation). What one is doing is either learning how to separate which nerves are activated and which are not, or learning how to interrupt / change the signals the nerves are sending to the brain, or brain is sending to the genitals. It's vastly different from that bullshit idea of pressing hard between penis and anus to force ejaculation into bladder. That can be harmful. It's not what we are talking about here.
     
  11. Thrices

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    Wet dreams minimise as you abstain from pmo.and as you might have experienced.in wet dreams,ejaculation is not as severe.wet dreams is kind of like the frequency you have trained your body to ejaculate.so give it time they will diminish. Wet dreams also occur to get rid of sexual tension so for a fapstranaut its good occassionally
    If they happen regularly,its shows damaged prostate due to over masturbation.you might as well ask,why does'nt sex damage prostate.its because while fapping,the pressure on penis is very high,causing the pc muscles to get used to faster ejaculation amd much load on prostate.again,god did'nt make hands to fap.
     

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