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My porno addiction and HOCD. PLEASE READ AND COMMENT!! (19 years old)

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by tryingreallyhard, Jun 8, 2014.

  1. tryingreallyhard

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    I have been struggling greatly with HOCD thoughts the past 6 months.

    These HOCD thoughts never ever occurred until college. I got a girlfriend freshman year and that was the first time I had really had any physical sexual contact with a girl. I noticed my ED not too early into our relationship. I always pushed to hook up (we did occasionally) and have sex but she wanted to wait for a period of time.

    But my ED issues worried me. I looked for answers and solutions (unhealthy diet, anxiety, etc) and around 8 Months in began using male enhancement pills to achieve an erection. These ranged from extenze to yohimbine and all sorts of shit. Exactly one year into our relationship a bought a new kind at walmart. I tried it the first night with some success, but the next night I took them and whilst eating her out thought, "It would be bad if I puked now", (the pills made me feel slightly queasy) and sure enough I threw up (thankfully on the floor!). She was shaken and I promised her it wasn't her and that I had just eaten too much food.

    Then the "what if I'm gay? I threw up eating her pussy" thoughts emerged. Suddenly my brain made a connection to why I had been having ED. I was gay. That was it. It hit me hard. I would not get drunk with my friends as I was afraid I would drunkenly tell them I was worried I was gay. I would puke anytime my girlfriend and I did anything sexual from the extreme anxiety of just worrying about puking. Sucks right? It hurt our relationship. I constantly fought in my head over it. I took countless "Am I gay?" tests on the internet. I did anything and everything to confirm my heterosexualality. I began avoiding my girlfriend from fear of these "what if Im gay" thoughts and puking episodes. I would like to mention I masturbated daily, sometimes more than twice, and always to porn (always straight porn), usually before I went to bed (if my GF wasn't sleeping over). Our sex life wasn't non existent however. We were both virgins and every time I could manage we would perform oral on each other (i would be soft during the BJ's). We finally had sex after about 14 months, but I was barely half mast and it was embarrasing. My desire to do anything sexual was gone because of all my anxieties and fears. She practically had to force herself on me. I was terrified any contact would lead to puking or failure to achieve an erection. And then the summer after sophomore year came (This summer). My girlfriend was going to Europe to study abroad. I prayed for it everyday the second semester as I hoped the 3 months apart would help me reset and bring me back to earth. Even apart the HOCD thoughts came. "What if I'm gay?" "everyone I know would hate me if I was gay. No one would accept me". These irrational fears dug deep into my brain. I would have (and sometimes still do) have spontaneous panic attacks and hyperventilate, worrying about my sexuality,scrambling for evidence that proved me gay (anything at all)sometimes throwing up. I masturbated heavily this summer. 3 to 4 times a night. One night at like 3am, after having my release, I was on 4chan looking at a porn thread when a comment about Nofap came up. I investigated and read the symptoms of Porn Addiction. I realized they all applied to me. "ED during sexual relations" "Depression" "Failure to maintain erection during intercourse" "ejaculating when soft or only becoming hard at the moment of ejaculation". They were all me. All of them. I realized my problem. 7 days ago I made this account. And that night was the last time I've masturbated. My HOCD has weakened considerably but by no means disappeared. My panic attacks are shorter and much less severe. I believe this no porn thing is working. I can see the sunshine breaking through the dark stormy shitty clouds. I am fully committed to lasting the full 90 days and possibly longer. I want my story to reach anyone and everyone who is struggling with these HOCD thoughts. You are not alone. Real people have this. I want to assure you that you're not gay. That little tiny voice in the back of your head saying "I know Im not gay" is right. We constantly drown him with uncertainties and what if's, but he's right. If anybody else is suffering from this, don't be afraid to comment. I want to mention I don't hate or look down on gay people in any way. I hope you guys can gain strength from my story and I hope to benefit from your comments as well. I will continue to update as I make this journey.
     
    Last edited: Jun 8, 2014
  2. Scaramanga

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    If you really want someone to read your wall of texts you should consider making it easier to read.
     
  3. e5s

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    tryingreallyhard,

    Okay. You're not gay. Nobody should hate you if you were. But it sounds as if you would hate yourself if you were.
    Why? I think it would be good for you to ask yourself that question.

    It sounds like you're chasing after sex that you're simply not ready for yet, emotionally. Again, why?
    You do know that some people save sex for marriage, right? It's an option. At least, when you're in a really strong relationship and there is nothing you can do in bed that would make the other person think less of you, the whole experience is much better! Why not wait until then?

    That said, there is a lot of worrying stuff in your post much worse than "ED and HOCD", to be frank.

    1. Messing with boner pills. Placebo or not, you should not need drugs to have recreational sex. At your age, unless you have a spinal injury that leaves you in a wheelchair, there is no physical reason for them. None. They should not be in the picture. At all. You know what to do when your brain thinks you want sex but your body isn't into it? YOU DON'T HAVE SEX! You switch to doing something else that's fun for a while. Really. That's what you do. A good partner will roll with it. You'll have great experiences together, if you're with the right person.
    The same is true of anti-anxiety pills and alcohol. If you need to get yourself good and drunk to work yourself up into having sex with someone, you should not be having sex with that person! (At least not at that time!) Just. Don't! Think about WHY.

    2. Drinking alone. You should never drink alone, not even in moderation. Were you raised by alcoholics? (You don't have to answer that question.) The point is, you're looking at the beginning of a BIG problem that WILL kill you if you don't get a handle on it. You're self-medicating with the stuff. Stop it, reach out, and get some help. The earlier you tackle it the better. I'm not saying you need to be a teetotaler for the rest of your life. Not everyone who struggles with alcoholism is. I'm saying, talk about what you're doing with someone responsible whom you trust, and find out what it takes to get your use of alcohol back into non-abusive territory.

    3. You're in college. You have real mental health issues. That's nothing to be ashamed of; many people do. But, you do know that campus has a Department of Mental Health services, right? When you're a student, it is the easiest time in your life to gain access to counseling and mental health treatment at low or no cost to you. Don't worry that anyone will know whom you don't want to know. It's confidential. It doesn't go on your school records or anything. Most campuses have counselors on hand who can help you with ongoing challenges. You make an appointment, maybe you have weekly appointments. They can also point you in the right direction if you need medications for your social anxiety and depression. You need a doctor to supervise your taking drugs; one, so that you find the right thing that actually works, and two, so that you don't accidentally die! Don't accidentally die. Make a list for yourself of the people who love you and would miss you and the awesome stuff you want to do in the future. Keep it handy. Again, there is no shame in asking for the right kind of help. You're trying to help yourself in secret and it's not working. Reach out. Over the summer, if you feel safe doing so, ask your family for help getting access to mental health care. If not, at the very least, make an appointment with your regular doctor and talk about this stuff you're going through. Everything you say is confidential and protected by HIPAA. Really. If you can pay for pharmaceuticals yourself, nobody but you, your doctor and your pharmacist even need to know. But if there is someone you trust nearby, please talk to them. You want somebody local to keep an eye on you. It will help.

    Please post again to mention how you're doing. Wishing you the best.
     
  4. BossTime

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    I don't think this is important for him. He made it clear that his thoughts of being gay came from his poor performances in the sex which he forced himself to have (by pills and alcohol), being influenced by porn obviously. I think he should fight these thoughts of being gay, as it goes along with his commitment to stop PMO.
     
    Last edited: Jun 8, 2014
  5. JohnnyChimpo

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    I have to respectfully disagree with this. "Fighting" ANY thoughts only serves to make them more powerful. If he feels he's obsessive already, fighting the thoughts will only make them more severe.

    tryingreallyhard, if you know you're not gay, but obsessive thoughts of being gay flood into your mind from time to time, try accepting the thoughts for a while. I'm not telling you to act on them, you wouldn't if you weren't gay, I'm just saying try to let them flow into your consciousness and flow out. Resisting them and raging against them will only make you more miserable and anxious.

    It's already been mentioned, but I'll mention it again: You don't HAVE to have sex yet. If you feel you need to get drunk before sex, you shouldn't be doing it. Talk to your girlfriend, she seems pretty understanding so it will most likely bring you closer together in the end, even if it's really uncomfortable initially.

    It's not easy, but you can do this. Keep us up to date on what's going on.
     
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  6. e5s

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    BossTime, I was just trying to say that I suspect that his thoughts of being 'gay' are a proxy for something else. If so, identifying and calling out that something else would be a more effective way to solve the problem. Whatever your values are, fighting shouldn't mean beating your head against a brick wall, you know?
     
  7. tryingreallyhard

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    Relapsed last night but I'm not giving up. Thanks everybody that has given me support. I'm gonna make it through this
     
  8. IGY

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    Hi tryingreallyhard. You puke when you try and have sexual contact with your girlfriend and you are terrified of being gay. You say that you did anything and everything to confirm your heterosexuality. You describe yourself of being in fear of those "What if I'm gay" thoughts; and that "Everyone I know would hate me if I was gay"; and "No one would accept me".

    All this adds up to the fact that you are in denial about your homosexuality. I think you have misdiagnosed yourself with HOCD so that you can suspend your disbelief. You do not want to be gay, partly because nobody in your social network would accept you without judgement. Regardless of how inconvenient your homosexual orientation may be, you are what you are my friend.
     
  9. tryingreallyhard

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    I have never felt any attraction towards any man in my life. Furthermore I enjoyed a relatively normal sex life with my girlfriend before I puked due to queasyness from ED pills and this led to me puking from then on only out of nervousness that I might puke. I do not find the female body physically revolting in any way
     
  10. tryingreallyhard

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    I only reached this HOCD conclusion because of my sexual dysfunction, not because of an attraction to men.
     
  11. Alexander_D

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    Lol, not sure if I get this. You have homosexual 'thoughts', but youre not attracted to men and dont watch gay porn? As in, you only /think/ you might be homosexual because of a few bad sexual experiences with your gf?
    Not sure if the logic here checks out.
    And lol @ IGY's confident diagnosis.
     
  12. FreddyNz

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    Wow this is intense !
    From reading thru this my conclusion can be the "gay" thoughts are a red herring, nothing about what you have said suggests you are gay... (does gay porn turn you on, no... then there's your answer). This sounds like a purely chemical/biological reaction to foolishly taking medications you know little about.. STOP TAKING THEM ! Your body will self heal remarkably easy. As for your G/F, yes the break is a great thing as it sounds you need space to figure out what you want from this relationship, apparently not sex, at least not yet. Cut out the meds, cut out the porn, don't allow yourself to get anxious, breathe and enjoy the small things in life, smile, laugh, have fun ! You'll reset in more ways than you can know atm, when your G/F returns have a conversation, she must be freaking out at your reactions to having sex with her... Women have an amazing ability to understand once they realise they're not the problem, if she's walked with you thru this, she can probably walk with you thru anything..

    Wow, you puked while giving her oral, imagine what must have gone thru her mind when you did that... "did she shower, is she diseased, is she incredibly ugly to you !?!" How on earth did she not just run screaming ! Speaks a lot to her integrity and how she really must be into you to put up with all that... doubt you could shock her with anything after that... but it sounds like she's still there and you must have amazing chemistry in other areas... perhaps as a couple you could focus on that.
    As have been said, you will need help, and the campus counselling is a very good idea

    All the best, and please keep us informed, this is a very interesting read indeed !

    To add..... society pressures many ppl to having sex waaay b4 they're ready, a real man knows when to just say no!
     

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