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Clean porn?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Lovelavie, Jun 12, 2014.

  1. Lovelavie

    Lovelavie Fapstronaut

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    Is people doing bodily functions, considered porn even when there's no sex involved?
     
    Last edited: Jun 13, 2014
  2. Niroso

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    Does it turn you on?
     
  3. LustFREE

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    Yes. Don't be a creep/ pervert and invade someone in their moment of privacy. By feeding that obsession, it will only escalate. The addiction doesn't have to be online. It can be something as simple as texting, or on a phone. It can be massage parlors, magazines, DVD's, hotel videos or any medium- may even just be underwear models. It can happen at a gym, locker room and of course a bathroom. Keep your curiosity to yourself and focus on HOW do you look at people. Do you REALLY look at them for just their private parts and pissing OR is there a whole person there?

    And I don't mean to insult by calling you a creep or pervert... We're all here looking to address the same issue just different degrees and variations of perversion.
     
  4. Lovelavie

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    I've never watched anyone publicly I'd never do that. There are porn sites for this, so that's not necessary.
     
  5. LustFREE

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    yep- all the same. the problem with the porn addiction is that it's progressive and will ultimately blur the lines. The fascination and rush watching online will ultimately wear off to where you need something more.
     
  6. Justquit

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    LustFREE is right. Yeah there's websites for any fetish under the sun but eventually the excitement will wear off and you'll need more which sometimes leads to illegal behavior in public or getting involved w that w other people w the same fetishes.
    People with fetishes didn't just wake up one day and think it turns them on, there was usually something that lead up to it.
     
  7. Scaramanga

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    If you have to ask, then yes.
    Did you honestly think anyone would reply that it isnt?
     
  8. Lovelavie

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    Wow I was asking a honest question because I wasn't sure. I wasn't expecting to be looked down on and made to feel bad by people who are supposed to help me. I'm new here, and calling someone a perv isnt encouraging or the best way of telling someone this isn't a good way. Nobody here has a right to make anyone feel bad no matter how many days you have on your counter. We all came here for a accepting community because we all need help. I'm just saying you could have said the same thing but in a more uplifting way and not a judgmental way that makes someone feel bad.
     
  9. perusan

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    Quite right @Lovelavie! You certainly don't deserve the response you got from @LustFREE. You are new here and you are trying to understand what is going on with yourself and what this addiction is. You are doing the right thing to ask questions, but unfortunately you may have triggered other people's insecurities and stresses.

    You have to understand that everyone here is an addict and are going through withdrawal. Specific questions about P can conjure up images in some people that can act as a trigger for them and they may respond angrily in defence of their own weaknesses. That certainly doesn't excuse someone to be judgemental here. If we all went round criticising each other's experiences with P it would be one big hate-fest and no-one would get any abstinence done.

    The fact that you asked the question does suggest that your addiction is trying to find loopholes in your mission to kick PMO. You probably knew already that the bodily function thing, although not sexual, was something that can be viewed as sexual, but being confused about what is and isn't P is common these days who have been exposed to it at an early age and had no-one to explain what it is and what it does. I would recommend reading

    http://www.yourbrainonporn.com

    That should give you an idea of what is going inside you and how pervasive P can be.

    I hope you can find it in yourself to forgive those on this thread who attacked you. And I hope those on this thread who attacked you can find it in themselves to recognise a newcomer who is dealing with the same issues as them and apologise for be critical and unsupportive.

    Keep going. Don't give up. I am sure you will find lots of people here who will guide you and suport you in kicking PMO.

    Good luck
     
    Last edited: Jun 13, 2014
  10. Guardian

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    I know LustFREE as he helped me- significantly I would add. He even says at the end he's not trying to insult anyone and in fact we're ALL here together- just different degrees or forms. IF it creates a pain point by someone calling it as it IS, then good. Hopefully, THAT's enough to take a hard look in the mirror and say "I DON'T want to be THAT guy" OR "I'm BETTER than THAT" and makes us stop. Attack the issue, not the person. That's all I see when I read the post. Bottom line- there's NO such thing as "Clean porn".
     
  11. perusan

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    Point taken - I see where LustFREE is coming from - thanks for helping me see this through different eyes.

    But maybe a friendlier approach is better for those who have just joined the site and finding their way. We are all vulnerable here and the harsh truth approach is maybe more suited to those who have at least had a chance to establish themselves. We can't help people if we scare them off when they are opening their hearts to us.
     
  12. Scaramanga

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    You know you cant always get the answers you want. You also have to see where the ones who answers are coming from. Some of us have been here for months, going through some major life changes to become successful on this journey. We have all seen numerous threads like this one and quite frankly I think youre lying to yourself, there is no way you could have expected to get any answers different from the ones you got.
     
  13. Squeaky Soul

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    My advice to you is to just steer clear from anything sexual in manner. I practiced this, and took it to the extremes. I can now be a bit more relaxed, but I must remind myself to always be on guard.

    Never let your guard down... Mitigate and avoid your triggers.

    LustFREE, I understand that you meant no offence, but the words creep and pervert are no words that should be directed to a young lady asking a question.

    ~Squeaky Soul
     
  14. JohnnyChimpo

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    I've read a lot of judgement here, you can't say "no offense, but you're a pervert".

    That being said, if it arouses you, it's causing that dopamine rush and it's just like watching other porn. There aren't any loopholes.
     
  15. NoMoreRelapses

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    Does it turn you on? Then yes, it is considered as porn. Don't watch it. Stay strong and don't try to find any stupid excuses.
     
  16. Lovelavie

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    Thanks for all the advice! I'm learning everyday and on my 13th day, getting stronger and more humbled as I learn and grow. Thank God for his grace.
     

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