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Just A Little Foreplay

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Resolved Oregonian, Feb 16, 2017.

  1. Resolved Oregonian

    Resolved Oregonian Fapstronaut

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    "It's just a little foreplay, it's just a little fooling around."

    (This piece may cause triggers)

    That's what I tell myself when my girlfriend and I are intimate with each other. And yet, I am one of those Fapstronauts who is doing a hard mode 30 day challenge who is in a relationship. Since starting the challenge, I have not orgasmed when we are together, but I've gotten close. I know it is a problem, and I want to change it.

    The problem created by foreplay without the sex, as many of you know, is that it creates a precedent for the sex. It places my body into a physiological state of craving for intercourse. As such, it not only increases my desire for sex, but makes me much more susceptible to look at porn. I do not want to continue this behavior and find out the hard way that "fooling around" led back to porn.

    Her and I have talked, and she is on boar with my abstinence, and supporting me on my NoFap journey. It is of course hard at times when we are intimate in any capacity. Whether it involves kissing, or touching her breasts, it all creates sexual stimulation.

    This has been particularly difficult for her, because she is very much inclined to be sexually active with me. And there are times when I choose to stimulate her to the point of orgasm (clit play). At this point I am not sure if I should be aiming to ask her to participate with me in the PMO challenge, or just have her support me.

    I would appreciate advice from others out there who have GF's or significant others and are doing PMO challenges. Whether that be setting boundaries, doing NoFap together, or whatever else.
     
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  2. SilverRogue

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    I've only just recently entered into a relationship so I don't have a ton of experience. I have yet to orgasm as well but I agree that it definitely puts you in a state of craving. This may not be your disposition but in my view, being intimate with a girl isn't a problem. I have yet to orgasm with her, but if it happens I won't take it as a loss, I'm not going to reset my counter because even though you are orgasming in that sense, it is the right type of orgasm. One that releases seratonin and rewires our brains to love actual women, not just screens. I'm definitely craving release right now but I'm trying my best picture my gf at this moment instead of taking actions I would regret.
     
  3. Resolved Oregonian

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    Thanks for the response. And yes, I do think an orgasm experienced with a woman is a healthy juxtaposition to porn. For me, right now, because I am in the early stages of overcoming unhealthy PMO, I am choosing to endure a time of sexual celibacy as well. I think this will help me heal faster, and in a more appropriate way. Sex with a woman is still an intense dopamine release, and I think that my physiology would be affected in a negative way, and hinder my recovery.
     
  4. HappyDaysAreHereAgain

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    Great dedication!
    Unless she thinks she has a problem with PMO, I do not see why she would need to participate. She might gain a better understanding of you and of this problem by reading and posting here in a soft mode.
    I am impressed that you are sexually meeting her needs while avoiding all O. That should deepen, if not speed, your recovery.
    I wish you the best.
     
  5. Resolved Oregonian

    Resolved Oregonian Fapstronaut

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    Hey, thanks @HappyDaysAreHereAgain . She does not have a problem with porn. I was just surmising that perhaps going through this with me in some capacity would be better for a healthy relationship for "us". I think the idea would be that eventually I would return to "O" with her, while still abstaining P/M. At this point, I am just taking my recovery one step at a time.
     
  6. HappyDaysAreHereAgain

    HappyDaysAreHereAgain Fapstronaut

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    Sounds like an Ideal plan.
    She could read over your shoulder, or she could join NoFap, get a user name and password so that she could log in, read, and post her thoughts and reactions. She could committ to no P, if she wanted. It could help the two of you to enjoy a deeper intimacy that is not just physical. There are interesting threads in the forums Rebooting in a relationship and in Dating during a reboot.
     
  7. ben_nofap_uk

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    @Resolved Oregonian Hats off to you my man, that must be intensely difficult giving your g/f pleasure but not being able to receive yourself. Like @HappyDaysAreHereAgain said though maybe she could join the forums and it would strenghthen your relationship even more. Keep strong my friend and sending you massive positive support!!
     
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