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A question for fellow artists out there

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by Anne-Dauphine, Jun 11, 2014.

  1. This sounds as offtopic as can be, but it's probably one of the most important thing I've ever thought of.

    Is there someone here who knows anything about selling your artwork, taking commissions, selling your art online, and putting up an exhibition?

    To give you a bit of a background: I'm a broke ass Stage 1 art student of BA Honours Fine Arts in Central Saint Martins in London. My practice is mostly 2D based, but also veeeeery experimental so I also do some video and installation work and anyway I constantly explore. I use only markers, bics, and pastels. For now I paint with acrylic and sand mixed.


    I have decided that I will live in New York one day and that I'll take my mom to a trip in Japan. And for that... I need money. And a lot of it. My studies cost a human soul a year and I need basically to pay back my bank the money they lent me.

    So I need money. And it happens that I have a burning desire to work - and some material to sell.

    I would like to take commissions and sell my work online.


    I beg you, if you know ANYTHING about this, or know someone who does, I would be forever - actually forever - grateful if you'd share your knowledge. I really, really, really want to take my mom to Japan.

    Oh... And I know it's a disgusting behaviour, but here's my portfolio, if you see something you like you can buy it, apart from the painting gallery (except water damage ones). I lost them I'm afraid. If you're easily triggered I would heavily suggest you to be EXTREMELY careful though, because I use a hell lot of porn imagery in my work. Pirates ye be warned.

    From the bottom of my heart, thank you in advance.
     
  2. Nate007

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    Well, Etsy is a half decent online platform that is quite frequented in America for selling art. As for commissions when dealing with strangers always take some sort of payment when you agree to make something for them (10 percent of the total cost for example). As for exhibitions and shows, since your in a fine arts program try to find out where the best ones are in terms of quality (you don't want to sell your stuff in a show full of crappy art) and fees for booths, size of booth etc. Another good idea is to try and get your art hanging in public places so that people see your stuff (like restaurants government buildings hotels etc) its great advertising. I assume you know most of this stuff, but the last thing i will say is that i find word of mouth and making connections still a very good way of getting sales and stuff.

    best of luck!
     
  3. Oh my actual God Nate you have no idea how grateful I am for you to answer this. This is so extremely helpful. I humbly admit that I didn't actually knew. I'm so dead spontaneous, I'm a raging bull that think only AFTER having started so your advices are really helpful to get my plan constructed, thank you!!! Yeah about connections, it's the hardest part for me... And it's the very reason why I'm gonna focus on that.

    Have the best day Nate.
     
  4. e5s

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    Hi cocorosie,

    I looked at your portfolio. WOW. Super stuff! Your voice is loud and clear in your work and that's AWESOME! Your art is definitely something to keep developing, keep showing, and CHERISH!

    As for making money, I know several very talented artists, but none, unfortunately, who make money on exhibitions. Don't hate me but... I think you'll have the best success making money if you focus for a time on the "boring" stuff, like portraits and photography services. I know someone who funded a year abroad (during art school) with a combination of sketch portraits and her income as a waitress. The portraits were fantastic, and of course doing that stuff works the drawing muscles in your brain. So it all ties together.

    My supervisor makes a hefty side income on wedding photography, and she's not an artist exactly, but it's creative/aesthetic work and some of the skills overlap. If you can underbid a more experienced photographers on vanity portraits, you can rack up the dough and experience pretty quick. Some of the shots may even contribute to your portfolio. You could look for inspiring stuff on the way.

    I have another coworker, a real artist, whose medium is acrylic paint. She does her original art in her off time, and she also has her own side business doing interior painting, custom murals for walls. She does wonderful work. She got into it through her husband's connections as a handyman/construction worker. So, meet people and talk, talk, talk about what you can do for them. Sell your services. Remember that people will only pay for stuff that THEY want. Sell to those who are buying, but pass over those who are not and give them your card. Getting your stuff out there is barely half the battle.

    I know a woman who has completed her BFA. She does incredible costume work, can design and sew hot clothes from scratch, starting with only dreams and her knowledge of design. I'm talking, idea -> sketchpad -> selecting materials -> sewing -> tailoring to fit -> adjustments and repair. She did the work for several university and community plays. Tons and tons of skill and creativity. Her portfolio is/was exemplary. I would ask her to help me with some projects if I could afford it, but she's pretty busy... waiting tables and working on a second degree in accounting. But she's MUCH happier now that she's no longer working 90+ hours a week for insane people and not making rent. Yeah, it's a rough world. You gotta do what keeps you alive and together.

    As has been mentioned, Etsy is a great website to use. Honestly though, looking around there and doing some quick math on hours spent vs asking price of items, although it is a fantastic platform, the money thing is still going to be a tough slog. What's nice is you can also browse what other people are selling, and get ideas for incorporating your artistic talent (your expression) into some kind of profitable craft. I know people who sell custom jewelry (through word of mouth, not Etsy). You can look around at the sort of items that there's a market for.

    I know it's every artist's dream to make a living while also doing what they love and getting their own unique message out, but Oh! isn't it a crap shoot. When you're making money, make money. When you're making art, make art. Use one to fund the other perhaps, but it doesn't have to be done directly. Everyone I know who makes money on art (or arty craft) is also working a regular job! When you're trudging away at something dull, you can envision it as making progress toward your goal. Pennies in the bank, spots on a canvas, piles of practice sketchpads, it's all progress. The local artist's coop in my town has some amazing stuff. I want to go in there and drop my whole paycheck sometimes. But I also sometimes look at the stuff and think, wow, that probably took 30+ hours to produce, and the asking price is a mere $90. Quite a bargain for the buyer, but, well, you can do the math. If you want to create a masterpiece without concern for whether Joe Public likes it, you can fund your avocation using sold art pieces or in any other way. It's your life, your time. You get to decide what strategy to use to accomplish your goals.
     
  5. Holy shit e5s I didn't expected so much, let me hug you - this means the world to me.

    I'm 100% willing to do the "boring" stuff - more than exhibitions actually. Because I wanted to be a graphic designer extremely hard, and because I have so much trouble considering what I do as being art. I'm... like a craftswoman you know? In French we have a word, "artisan", that express that well.

    I'm too tired to give a real answer, I just wanted to thank you. Tomorrow I'm going to school because I will not turn my computer on, gonna answer the shit out of that.

    How to meet people? How to meet people who buy? I think that I'm in the perfect school for it, so yeah. Only stuff I got left is to work.

    Thanks for the BFA woman exemple. Sometimes I need a reality check. It's a job like everything else.

    Definitely gonna check Etsy more. I'm still a bit afraid I think, need to do the leap of faith. And gotta organize myself. My mom used to have her own start-up with decoration objects. She had to stop because the work was killing her... I don't wanna make the same mistakes.

    "When you're making money, make money. When you're making art, make art" probably is one of the best advice I've ever received, thank you.

    I don't that much want to be famous and scandalous and all. All I want is to provoke emotions I guess. Talent, not talent, from now on I don't care, I'll continue till I die.

    I'm keeping your advice extremely preciously. Shit. It's a tiny bit sad to see I owe 60000 euros a year to my bank, and the best advice I get are here...


    EDIT: ok so. As I was saying, the boring stuff. For me, it would be of course commissions. Not being able to be free, but giving people what they want. Problem is, finding people interested. Motivation and hard work is here, I just have to find people.


    Problem with photography is that I love it, but I really suck at it. A big lot of my fav artists are fashion photographers, but every time I try, it's rubbish. I'm better with a marker in hand than with a camera.

    I would like to be like your coworker. Actually my dream carrier is to officially have a practice (make exhibitions, sell original art, etc), but also to... make children and toddlers books. And also... make a magazine. These are my dreams. It's not like the three things I'll do in life. These are real dreams.


    Maybe I should start a star-up. But they're so many people doing that already.
     
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